(June 30, 2012 at 6:19 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Suicide is the final insult at a world you want to get back at. It's the ultimate selfish act, and a selfish thought process. It's the opposite to the instict to survive...
Thank you fr0d0 for so nicely summarizing the misconceptions people have about the act of suicide. Yes, some people have killed themselves for selfish reasons, but the act of suicide itself is not inherently selfish.
I have hidden the rest of my response to this, because it could be a trigger for some people, so if you're not feeling well, don't read this.
fr0d0 Wrote:I certainly care less than nothing about an afterlife. I do see the point of getting the most out of life, and thoughts of suicide are the polar opposite of that. That is how my religious understanding influences me.
This isn't really directed at you, kind fr0d0, but I used your quote to illustrate another point.
There are times and places to talk about religion, the afterlife, God or no God, but when someone is discussing mental health issues, save the fire and brimstone bullshit for later. I'm horrified at GC for his comments here, but I let them slide since I am almost certain this person is not going to commit suicide(if you are, get help, call a hotline). When people are mentally ill, it becomes their primary issue that they must deal with. Before anything else can be truly accomplished, the illness must be under control, so telling people with suicidal tendencies that they are going to go to hell is as appropriate as asking the president how long his dick is at his inauguration. If you want to spread your word, as we all know you do, don't do it to the mentally ill when they are having an episode. Sell your snake oil afterwards.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell