RE: The debate is over
July 2, 2012 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm by Taqiyya Mockingbird.)
(July 2, 2012 at 2:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(July 2, 2012 at 9:11 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Errr...none of those posted are actually "scientists" f0d0s.... charlatans yes, scientist? Umm NOI didn't comment
Indeed. You dodged the question. Answer the fucking question.
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 9:11 am)Zen Badger Wrote: And how exactly is reality on your side?Reality is what I claim. If you claim that there is no such thing as non empirical then that's up to you to prove against the hard evidence.
Another sad attempt to shift the burden of proof. You are claiming sky-fairy x exists and defining it in a way that specifies it cannot be verified, yet your fairy tale book claims your sky fairy created the universe and appeared before certain people.
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 9:12 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: If god is real, he or his effects SHOULD be empirically testable. This much is simply obvious.
Your claim is refuted. Laughing isn't going to make this go away.
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 9:15 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: There is mounting empirical evidence that this "god" does not exist outside the minds of those afflicted with the god-complex or those under 5years of age (mentally or chronologically)Mounting evidence huh? Care to share a single shred with us?
Including that the fucking world is NOT FLAT, and that the sun and stars don't revolve around it. as science and knowledge progresses, you are running out of the gaps you used to hide your sky fairy in. Just for starters.
Quote:More like DISCARD your innate reasoning powers.(July 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I actually agree, Frods, except by insisting on belief in the un-observable you place us in the position of having to take your word for it.You don't have to take my word for it. All you need do is use your inate reasoning powers.
That's asking a bit much, don't you think?
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Thank you for admitting that you have absolutely nothing to support or substantiate your fairy tale.Are you even aware of what we're talking about here?
Very much so.
Quote:It appears not.
Keep telling yourself that, asshole.
(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote:Quote:They might, if embarrasasing were even a word. However, they would not find me embarrassing, which is what your fifth grade English teacher would find you.Well there's your best point scored.
In the humor department, anyway.
Quote:\(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: It is arbitrary in nature, and Dawkins challenges it by pointing out that it holds no more claim to being accurate than claims of Zeus, Wotan, or the many thousands of other fairy tale deities that have been made up by others.And we have established that Dawkins is ignorant on the subject. For those who progress out of kindergarten there's a whole grown up world to explore.
And I am largely ignorant on the subject of Grimm's fairy Tales. Unfortunately for you, that grown up world is not in need of either set of fairy tales.
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: The existence of a single person who exhibits moral behavior and does not believe in your sky fairy refutes your assertion of "morality being rooted in gawd". There are and have been billions.Oh so you're arguing FOR a moral imperitive now? And what is your world view might I ask? How do you justify your intellectual standpoint?
I am refuting your "no gawd, no morals" claim. Handily. Shove your semantic prestidigitation up your ass.
Quote:Did I claim exclusivity? *goes take a looksie* ...hmm... no. That's a fail then.
Did you mean something else when you said "Morality being rooted in" your sky fairy?
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: "Logic and reason" and "belief without proof" are mutually exclusive.Listen up shit for brains...
OH, look at the True Christian!!!!!!
Quote:Proofs of logic require that no evidence be present. For with evidence logic is unnecessary.
Thanks for demonstrating you don't know fuck about even basic logic or reason. Never heard that inconvenient little bit about in order for the conclusion to be true, the premises must also be true, have you? Well played.
Quote: I don't need to prove that you have access to the forum when I have evidence of you shitting in it.
Oh, is this you talking about evidence? That is truly funny.
Quote:So to correct your statement above: "Logic and reason" and "belief with proof" are mutually exclusive.
Thanks for demonstrating conclusively why no one need take anything you say seriously, ever.
Quote:(July 2, 2012 at 1:47 pm)Taqiyya Mockingbird Wrote: Look, asshole, if your sky fairy could create the entire fucking universe, then it could show itself to us and and end all of our skepticism here and now, forever and ever amen. According to your fairy tales, your sky fairy has appeared to other humans at will, and, being omniscient as you assholes claim, it would know perfectly well that we would not be skeptical it it were to show itself. Your claim that it is "non-empirical" is just a bullshit smoke screen. You are a pathological liar.
Ah you really are that ignorant.
You really are that disingenuous and intellectually dishonest.
Quote:Please provide proof to us, addressing the subject, and not drifting off into your own fantasy, as is usually what happens, that God is empirically proven in Christian tradition.
I made no such claim, asswipe.
Quote:If you can't, I expect you to be honest and retract your statement (I won't be holding my breath).
I think you really should hold your breath. Better yet, go suck on a tailpipe.