I can feel your anger

[The Grand Nudger]

We did. I guess I'll have to start using shorter words.

If that will help you to more effectively convey your thoughts, please do.

That's a meaningless distinction. The point is, you assign some kind of blame to theism on the basis of the set of beliefs that motivated the person's actions. Right?

No, theism is a thing to be blamed upon, not blamed for. The distinction may seem meaningless to you, but it's a pretty useful one for me.

Right, I guess we need to clear up what "motivated by atheism" amounts to. Is the following belief system atheist?

B = {"It is wrong to do harm", "Killing someone causes harm", "Killing someone is wrong"}

Bait and switch, who cares whether a belief system is theistic or atheistic, you keep trying to determine this and then go on to make conclusions about justifications. Mr A believes god told him to do something, that's justification (at least in his mind) and "implements" theism. Mr B just happens to be an atheist and is going to do something, where atheism fits in I suppose is just that you'd like to add it in there for spice. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that this has been unintentional.

...you're just restating the information I gave you...

I know, you have a habit of answering your own questions in the asking.

...what?

What part of that statement was difficult to understand?

You honestly think that you can prove from "At least one god exists" that God told Mr. A to kill Mr. Z because Mr. Z isn't Christian? Show me that proof, please.

Really? I take back the above, this shit is intentional. Bait and switch. (I don't think gods talk to people either Clive, nice to know we have common ground)

Any belief system that does not include the belief "At least one god exists" implements atheism. That's what it means to be atheist--you lack the belief that God exists.

Bait and switch. You know, you seem to have such an easy grasp of what it means to be an atheist all of a sudden, I wonder why you had so much trouble with the term before.....

No, I never provided such a series of steps. Are you refusing to do so? If you are, I'll take that as an admission that you can't prove that theism is responsible for A's actions but atheism isn't responsible for B's.

You'd take anything as an admission would you?..lol. You did give those steps, in no uncertain terms, one right after the other. Have we reached the infamous "declaration of victory" moment already?