RE: I can feel your anger
July 6, 2012 at 12:53 pm
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2012 at 12:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 6, 2012 at 12:34 pm)CliveStaples Wrote: I never said "People who are Jews" was a belief.
In fairness, no, you didn't, but you did characterize the existence of jews as an "atheist" belief, of course the existence of people who aren't christians is also an "atheist" belief -again by your crippled metrics-, but that didn't stop you from making a comment about murderous anti-semitism requiring such beliefs, nor did it compel you to mention that zealous christian slaughter of non-christians required the same -again...by your crippled metrics-.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Quote:So people don't lie? People don't ever misunderstand their own motivations?
Of course they do, where would you like to take this, that everyone who kills in the name of god is lying? Good luck with that one. Personally, it doesn't matter to me whether a person truly believes that god willed this or that, both the delusional and the manipulative are invoking the same pretense.
Quote:So let's suppose someone says "I did this because X", where X is some reasoning that involves the existence of God. Isn't X theistic?
Sure, if X depends on that persons theism.
Quote:Let's suppose someone says "I did this because Y", where Y is some reasoning that doesn't involve the existence of God. Isn't Y atheistic?
Sure, if Y depends on that persons atheism.
Quote:Which statements? Where? The statements in the section of the post you're responding to? The statements in the belief systems that I had asked you to identify as atheist/not atheist?You're a big boy, I'm confident that you'll be able to figure this out, especially since you already posted the answer.
Quote:Because you keep changing your mind about what atheism is. First you say that any belief system that isn't theist is atheist.Pretty sure that's your song and dance, not mine.
Quote:Then you say that {"Killing CliveStaples is good"} isn't atheist, even though it doesn't include the belief "At least one god exists", violating your previous definition.
I believe that you're inserting your own definition and calling it mine there amigo.
Quote:So that's why I keep asking you. You're giving me contradictory answers.
I think it's more likely that you "keep asking" in order to avoid elaborating upon some "atheistic" justification for killing someone.
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