RE: I am atheist,but I do not like science.
July 8, 2012 at 5:26 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2012 at 5:31 am by CliveStaples.)
(July 8, 2012 at 5:18 am)cato123 Wrote: Which is more likely?
1. History actually exists despite our lack of participation in events before our existence. OR...
2. We are all poofed into existence three seconds ago ingrained with a common faked history implanted; including our previous posts.
I didn't answer the question, because it's unanswerable in this form. How are you assigning the probabilities?
It's like asking, "Which is more likely, event A or event B?" Without knowing anything about how you're assigning probabilities to A and B, I'd just be speculating.
Quote:I will assume that you will choose number two in order to be consistent. Then let's assume that I show up at your location in ten minutes and fuck you in the ass with a jackhammer. Three seconds after that you look up to me looking for an answer. Your ass is the size of a small swimming pool and I'm standing nearby with a jackhammer; your entrails dripping from the end.
As you shove both of your fists in your ass to stop the bleeding I simply state that it never happened. We were both just created and your ass wound is nothing more than a consequence of your implanted memory. You can believe this all you want to, but your ass won't soon stop bleeding.
Colorful, but irrelevant. How are you deciding which is more likely?
Even though it's irrelevant, let me point out that I'm not saying our memories are false or that the universe was created three seconds ago with the appearance of age. I, in fact, believe that our memories are usually reliable, and that the universe is quite old--something on the order of 10 billion years.
Now, if you'd read my posts , you would have seen that I never claimed that our memories are unreliable, or that the universe is only three seconds old.
Protip: Asking, "How can we know p?" isn't the same as "p is false."
(July 8, 2012 at 5:04 am)FallentoReason Wrote: I know what you're saying but it's rather pointless in all honesty.
How do you know that you think you know your memory is useless? Isn't it true that you knew this 5 minutes ago? Or are you genuinely coming up with this argument for the first time at every 'instant'?
The question is important.
Let p = "The universe was not created three seconds ago with the appearance of age."
If there is no evidence for p, then an evidentialist must refuse to believe it (since an evidentialist refuses to believe claims for which there is no evidence).
“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
