(July 10, 2012 at 1:29 am)Drich Wrote:(July 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm)cato123 Wrote: Jesus has some good ideas, but tells everyone that not a law will change until the Earth disappears (his words, not mine).Ahh finally I see your problem Christ did not say the Law would not Change for He himself Changed or added to the exist ing Law (Read the Whole of Mat 5, not just the parts you've been harping on) Christ said:For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one title will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
This does not mean it would not be completed or added on to. As witnessed by verse 21
Quote:Fulfill doesn't mean complete or satisfy,Actually it does the word in question is: γίνομαι/ginomai It Means:
to be made, finished
Quote:particularly in light of Isaiah,Now please explain what you think Isaiah says.
Quote: nor what Christ is purported to have claimed.Could you recap what Christ has now 'purported to have claimed?"
Quote: It's not until Paul that ignoring the rules is acceptable in the growing Church.You are jumping to conclusion based on red herring theology. So I ask again please explain what you mean (with book Chapter and Verse) rather than simply alluding to what you think, or what you think you can safely argue.
Whew! In short, you have the option of following Christ or Paul. The contradiction is plain, choose one.
Red Herring? Was this the single fish (along with a loaf) that Christ fed the masses on? That is impressive. He could have at least saved himself some labor and picked a fish that was big enough to swallow Johah, but no.
I gave you chapter and verse before. You chose to ignore them and give me a context lecture instead; now you want chapter and verse. Or is the self proclaimed scriptual guider having trouble finding the chapter in Isaiah that refers to the Messiah as magnifying the law (somewher in the 40s as I recall).
Why would Christ 'finish' the OT law of adultery, yet expound to the point where thinking about it makes one guilty, not just the act itself? Sounds more like magnifying rather than finishing.