RE: Pat Robertson says it's ok to ignore parts of the Bible.
July 10, 2012 at 11:41 am
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2012 at 11:41 am by Annik.)
(July 10, 2012 at 2:06 am)Drich Wrote: I know you can read otherwise how could you respond. So that either means you did not read the OT definition of a slave, or you simply are not able to comprehend or will not accept a definition of a slave that contradicts what you understand a slave to be.You know, you're right. I can't accept the definition of a slave. You want to know why? It's so fundamentally against the basest of human rights that I can't even stomach the thought. No wonder you're so easy to shut down the rights of others.
Quote: May I suggest that you read what you are arguing against before you look any more foolish than you already do. For a slave is not always a man who has his life stolen. Men in those days sold themselves into slavery as a way to earn title, Lands, Commodities, live stock, Protection from outsiders, for themselves and their family. It was the only way a society had to compensate the lower classes for services rendered when coinage or a universal standard currency was scarce or simply not available. Slavery was a binding contract between a slave and a rich man. The slave sold years of service as a way to trade for things he did not have, or could not provide for his family.Might I suggest that you pull your head out of your idealized-slavery-ass? I'm sure that there were indentured servants, but that's a little different than a slave. Also, human life and human choice are not for sale. They are NOT. Additionally, there are plenty of slaves (yes, even in Biblical times, what a novel concept) that are taken against their will.
Quote:Because you have closed your mind to a trigger word that the society you live in has universally condemned. Your are Ignoring all Historical and economic value this system of barter offered to Man. Thus ignoring all those who were slaves offered society.If the cost is even one human life, it is not worth it. It's cruel. Cruel and horrid. It's the exploitation of your fellow man. How can you not extend empathy for their plight? I don't even understand.
Quote:Show me where I said that
Dirc Wrote:Nope. Technically it would make one live stock..Again. Humans are not livestock.
Quote:Are you employed?Yep. I get paid hourly and I'm free to quit at any second. Freewill. You should think about that. This is a very poor analogy.
Quote:I amOh HELL no. I can't even respond to this. I'm shaking with anger. If we were in the same room, this is where I'd punch you in the face.
Quote:I am one generation removed from the Modern understanding of the term. My Grandfather's family held very large farm land in Korea. When Japan invaded they took His families land and put him and all of his siblings to work farming the land (after killing his parents.) They produced alot of rice for the emperor's soldiers, but he lost several of his brothers to starvation.(They would produce tons of rice for Japan, but was left picking individual kernels off of the store house floors all the while careful not to pick too much or it would be taken and bagged and sent some place else. When He was old enough he was conscripted to fight in the emperors army. After the war He returned home only to find that another war was about to begin this time with China looking to take over. So He pack up the family and moved to the US with the help of a GI who just so happen to have a farm of his own that he "allowed" my Hab-bo-gee to work as a way to repay his debt till he stroked out in the field (in his 80's..) In a country where 5th and 6th generation descendants of slaves were still demanding compensation for what ancestors no one could name had to endure. No one seem to care that in certain parts of this very same country the same thing was going on, under a different name. that is the problem with labling slavery the way yoou have. Because if it is not a unpaid back man wearing tattered cloths picking cotton, You people do know what you are looking at. nor do any of you care unless someone challenges the self righteous attitude you have built around your understanding of this word.Please, inform this man how much you love slavery. I'm sure he'd agree with you.
I get what a slave is because I worked with this man saw the scars, the disfigurement from broken bones, the permanent bend in his back from constantly working the ground, the leathered brown skin, the permanent squint from being in the sun, the burned and recessed eyes. Even knowing this i welcome the slavery God offers, because His burden is easy and His yoke is light.
Quote:What your self righteous pride has you to fail to comprehend is that you are already a slave, and because you have swallowed the modern understanding of the term you do not know what one really is any more. Thus ensuring your eternal service to your hard master.
What you fail to understand is that I'm not speaking from pride. I'm speaking from HUMAN COMPASSION. You're so fucked in the head by your religion, you don't even understand how horrendous you sound. You're a monster. I hope you don't have children. I hope you never have children. Exposing a child to that kind of thinking is despicable.
We're done here. I have no respect for you. And still... I'd never wish slavery on you.
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