(July 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Drich Wrote: Yes because God is the literal defination of Good, or rather He orginally was the defination of Good.
So when this deity is drowning babies, turning people into pillars of salt, killing firstborn sons or telling us that we can keep slaves, this is all "Good"?
Quote:It seems you have fallen for the idea that right and wrong are standards that some how exist without God.
Unless you can demonstrate your god exists, then right and wrong are standards that exist without "God".
Quote:The oppsite is true. right and wrong only exist to describe your actions in relation to God's will.
By this standard, if this deity told you to kill your children, wouldn't refusing to do so be "wrong"?
Quote:Its simple. Right is anything in God's expressed will. Wrong any thing or reason not in the expressed will of God.
And how the hell are we supposed to know what is in the "expressed will" of this deity? By referencing a confusing, unclear, contradictory mish mash of a book? Because believers can't even agree among themselves what is and isn't moral.
Is stem cell research right or wrong? What about using birth control? How about polygamy? Premarital sex? Gambling? Some believers will say yes, some will say no. In which case, why should we pay any attention to you at all?
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?