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Where's the Justice?
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RE: Where's the Justice?
(July 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm)Thor Wrote: Like I said, it's fun to make believers defend the most absurd aspects of their religion.
there is no make here brother. I am most happy to give a full account of what i believe.

Quote:So drowning babies is "good" as long as your deity wills it?
Drowning, smashing them against stones, putting them to the sword.

Quote: WOW! Makes me think of something I read somewhere:

Morality is doing what is right no matter what you are told.
Religion is doing what you are told no matter what is right.
Unfortunaltly morality is not really the absolute standard you have made it out to be. It's whatever you or your community decides it to be. So allow me to rephrase your saying so it reads accuratly.

Morality is doing whatever you/your peers think is right no matter what you are told (IE; The 'final solution' to the Jewish problem, was billed as a 'Moral Obligation' to the defenders of Hitler's Germany)

Righteousness is is found independantly of the deeds or actions one takes, and is acredited to why one does what He does , and does not assign value to the action itself.

Quote:If your deity drowns babies and kills innocent people, it is not worthy of worship.
My 'deity' knows no one is 'innocent' and knew who those babies would grow up to be. Doesn't God being 'All knowing' have the responsiablity to eliminate any one person or group of people who would destroy this world/His plans for this world?

Quote:This is scary because there have been people who have killed (or attempted to kill) their children and they claimed they were instructed to do so by God.
Million if not billions more kids where cherrished love and looked after because Christian parents 'claimed God told them to watch after their children.' And unlike your 'claim' Their's is backed by actual scripture.

Quote:Glad I'm not your kid. If you had some sort of hallucination you would obviously be ready to pick up a knife and plunge it in my chest.
Actually no. All 'visions' must first be filtered through the expressed will of God.

Quote:We don't get stem cells by killing children.
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Calling unborn children by another name does not change their genius or Species. Oh, the Irony/Hyprocrisy here. You rant about the philosiphical implications of completely yeilding to God and even go so far as parade out a limric to support you idea of what is 'right' (Morality) To perserve the rights of babies, and yet all you or your morality need to do is change what a baby is called, and then you can justify anything you wish to do to them. If God commanded 10,000 no 100,000 babies to be smashed against stones, drown, or put to the sword, and He is called wicked. How much more wicked is the generation who put millions of babies to death under the banner of "planned parenthood?" And all they had to do to square this slaughter is renamed an unborn baby a fetus (Which is latin for unborn baby.) Yet God is the one being called evil, for bring these children home. Judge not lest you be judged in the same way you've seen fit to judge others.. If you are a supporter of harvesting stem cells from murdered babies or if you support the right to eliminate an unwanted baby, then perhaps YOU might want to take it easy on judgeing God for the act of killing babies in the name of an act that you think is intrinsically wrong.

Quote:The Cathoholic Church does not agree with you.
The Catholic Chruch has no qualms of admitting that thier doctrine is not based on biblical principles. They base the whole religious effort on the teaching of a supposed living apstole, that some how he is endowed with the same power and authority Christ Gave Peter. As such this man can change the bible as he sees fit.. Or rather" how God tells him to."

I had to edit your following questions to read correctly. The corrections are in purple.

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Quote:Sex outside of the bounds of a santified marriage is always a sin.

Where does the Bible say this?
In these passages we find sexual immorality to be a sinSadActs 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete sexual abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves Hebrews 13:4, 1 Corinthians 7:2

Quote:
Quote:Gambling?

Quote:The act itself is not a sin, but the love of money is.

Where does the Bible say this?
1 Timothy 6:10

Quote:
Quote:If some say yes and some say no, and both are right,

This does not square with what you said here:

Quote:Because the Expressed will of God is very clear.

If the expressed will of this deity is "very clear", how can people have two different interpretations of it?
Because even if the bible is very clear and say "x" is a sin and "Y" is not some people still may have doubts about "Y" therfore for them it is a sin to do "Y."
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=ERV

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Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 7, 2012 at 12:50 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 7, 2012 at 2:24 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by znk666 - July 7, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 7, 2012 at 10:37 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 8, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Undeceived - July 8, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 9, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 9, 2012 at 2:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 9, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 9, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 10, 2012 at 1:29 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 2:03 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 10, 2012 at 2:13 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 10, 2012 at 2:34 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 13, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Undeceived - July 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 11, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by JohnDG - July 11, 2012 at 4:47 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 11, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 11, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 11, 2012 at 10:36 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 11, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 11, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 12, 2012 at 1:00 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by downbeatplumb - July 12, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by JohnDG - July 12, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 12, 2012 at 2:34 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by MysticKnight - July 11, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Minimalist - July 7, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2012 at 3:18 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Undeceived - July 7, 2012 at 3:43 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by joe terlizzi - July 7, 2012 at 4:18 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by downbeatplumb - July 7, 2012 at 5:52 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 7, 2012 at 9:25 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 7, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Norfolk And Chance - July 7, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 7, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Tempus - July 7, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 8, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 8, 2012 at 4:52 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by CliveStaples - July 8, 2012 at 5:02 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 8, 2012 at 5:28 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 11, 2012 at 3:10 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 11, 2012 at 4:38 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 12, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Minimalist - July 7, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 8, 2012 at 3:30 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 8, 2012 at 12:13 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by CliveStaples - July 8, 2012 at 4:03 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 8, 2012 at 4:13 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by CliveStaples - July 8, 2012 at 4:18 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 8, 2012 at 4:31 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Norfolk And Chance - July 8, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 8, 2012 at 7:55 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Minimalist - July 8, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 8, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 8, 2012 at 4:44 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 8, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 9, 2012 at 12:28 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 9, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 9, 2012 at 12:22 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by FallentoReason - July 10, 2012 at 5:48 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 10, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 11, 2012 at 9:28 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 11, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 11, 2012 at 9:46 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Cato - July 11, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 12, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 12, 2012 at 8:25 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 13, 2012 at 11:54 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by jonb - July 13, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 13, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 17, 2012 at 12:09 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Annik - July 9, 2012 at 12:37 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Opsnyder - July 9, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 9, 2012 at 4:11 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Thor - July 9, 2012 at 4:41 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Godschild - July 9, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Mister Agenda - July 11, 2012 at 2:56 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Nine - July 9, 2012 at 4:39 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by padraic - July 9, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by The Grand Nudger - July 9, 2012 at 10:40 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by The Grand Nudger - July 11, 2012 at 1:24 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 5:37 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 10:54 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 11:06 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 11, 2012 at 11:08 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 11, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Reforged - July 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 13, 2012 at 5:28 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 13, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Polaris - July 13, 2012 at 10:04 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 13, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 13, 2012 at 3:17 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 13, 2012 at 4:55 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 13, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Faith No More - July 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 13, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Faith No More - July 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 1:01 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 6:31 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Welsh cake - July 13, 2012 at 4:58 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Undeceived - July 13, 2012 at 5:46 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 13, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Welsh cake - July 13, 2012 at 7:21 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Undeceived - July 14, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Taqiyya Mockingbird - July 14, 2012 at 10:15 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 10:19 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 11:12 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Polaris - July 14, 2012 at 11:01 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by frankiej - July 14, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 4:31 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 6:43 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Gambit - July 14, 2012 at 7:13 pm
RE: Where's the Justice? - by Drich - July 14, 2012 at 8:27 pm

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