Where's the Justice?

[Drich]

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1. Where is there any mention of demons? Are you referring to the Nephilim?

בן ben (sons)
אלהים 'elohiym (of God)
Who were the sons of God on the Earth?
Rev 12:
7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”


We know this happened before the fall in the Garden because it was on earth that Adam and Eve were tempted and fell from God's grace. It was also on the Earth Job was afflicted by satan and his angles. Not to mention Where Christ was tempted by satan and where Christ and the deciples were casting out Demons.

(Fallen angels are what the church calls demons.)

2. You were defending why God saw fit to drown all the babies during the flood,

Actually no. i was expressing the need God saw to flood the earth killing everything not on the ark including babies. something one poster wanted to focous on, because in his mind this was the greater sin. thereby some how making god a greater sinner in his eye, therefore making it a moral obligation not to worship the God of the bible.

and that is when you started talking about babies born of demons and human women.

No I started talking about Men of Great renoun or Demon hybrids, and monkey man/souless man, because the assertion was made that only the innocent were being persecuted by God.

Do you often go off on tangents when addressing specific points?

Only when there is confusion or i am asked to do so.(such as your challenges or post directed at me in this thread)

Otherwise, why bring it up at all?

Again it is because of challenges like this one i bring up 'side facts'

Even though you wouldn't come right out and say God drowned the babies, we know in the context of the story he did

God drown Babies! and a whole host of 'other' beings. i thought this was made clear when I said that some of the babies were the monsters God was targeting to destroy, and others were the prey of those monsters. then I asked what would be better to die as an infant by the hand of God? or to die at the hands of the type of evil beings the earth has not seen since?

So what else would you have been talking about?

See above

It kind of sticks in your throat, doesn't it?

Only if you have no idea of what is being discussed.. doesn't it?

You're displaying signs of something I see often in Christians. You've hit the proverbial brick wall and your moral compass is in conflict with which way to go.

This is why your arguement has failed from the beginning. you are presupposing that i am trying to align God's deeds with popular morality. Ask any one of your peers here. i am not the person you need me to be inorder for you failed arguement to work. For I do not care what popular morality dictates. Look at the pat Robertson thread. I have stated I am NOT a person who says All slavery is Always a Bad thing! Popular morality/your understanding of Morality is not my cornerstone or guiding light. So i do not make any qualms about crossing it.

3. I don't know whether there is a God or not, but I'm ok with not knowing rather than having to justify one created by savage people who were only barely starting to educate themselves. Yes, I've looked for evidence of God's existence and found nothing but books, written by men, that gullible people in the 21st century still stubbornly hold onto as truth.

If you seek God then why turn to books? Why not seek this evidence from God himself? He has made a promise to all who Ask Seek and Knock for Him. Make an honest effort to take Him at His word and you will get what you are looking for.

I'm going to start a new thread later when I have the time, if you'll indulge me. There are some other chapters in the bible I'd like to hear your explanation for.

They've probably been discussed already, but if you do not mind a copy and paste to start I'd be happy to follow up any subsequent questions.