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[quote]Drich, you are talking absolute shit, yet again. So, let's continue the conversation along the lines of the babies. Why couldn't God have rescued the innocents as he did the animals, Noah and his family? Surely innocent babies are more righteous than even Noah? You say my argument falls down, however, you are the one who has to redefine morality to make your truth fit. That is the conflict that you face and the only way you can resolve it is by changing the meaning of morality. [/quote]Who would take care of the 1000's of babies that were saved? one of the 8 people left on the planet? what would they eat? you do know they did not have powered baby formula back then right? Who would care for them when they got older? Let me put it this way: what happens when there are too many predators and not enough food? after everything is eaten the predators would starve.
So even if god saved the babies, they would soon eat every thing avaiable making the whole ark effort meaningless. Look at all of the additional "clean" aniamals Noah had to take to sustain 8 people.
[quote]Again I will ask, where are there any references in the bible that explicitly state, other than your interpretation of other passages, why God chose to kill all the innocent babies in the flood?[/quote]
Gladly if you can please show where I said the wrath of God was directed only at babies.
Cut and paste the quote along with the post number.
[quote] You are attempting to speak on behalf of God, which is not your place. [/quote]
But it is.. It is the 'place' of every believer when asked a question about why he or she believes. Some answers will be more indeppth than others but all own an explaination.
[quote]Your mental gymnastics and attempts to discredit my observation of your weak arguments are not good enough.[/quote] If it were then it would be very easy for you to go line by line and disect my statement and prove me wrong on each and every level as i have done for you. But instead you lump everything to gether and make sweaping observations in an attempt to dismiss what you can not answer for.
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You have failed to provide me with what I ask for, time and time again.[/quote]Cut and paste an example.
[quote] You continually try to make tenuous links using phrasing like "We know from this" - how do you know anything? The only way you could is if your knowledge was specifically guided by God. Do you make such a claim? [/quote]We know this from the bible which is specific guideance from God. so yes.
[quote]I'm not even going to leave that as a loaded question; I'll expand on it right now. I've been told by many believers of different faiths that I am special and that God has charged me with a specific task - this is all due to some work I do outside of this forum. That includes Christians, Muslims, Hindus and psychics. Now, if I were to believe them, which I don't, I would state quite clearly that I've been sent to destroy your corruption of God's true message to mankind. On what grounds could you possibly challenge me? I think I can already anticipate your answer, but I'll wait.[/quote] why do you think I need to challenge you at all? You came here asking me questions. AND you asked that I directly address a thread you were going to post... So again it seems as if your challenging me, not the otherway round.
(was my response as you predicted?) It was easy enough to predict. After all it reflects your actions and the request you made.
[quote]Drich, you are talking absolute shit, yet again. So, let's continue the conversation along the lines of the babies. Why couldn't God have rescued the innocents as he did the animals, Noah and his family? Surely innocent babies are more righteous than even Noah? You say my argument falls down, however, you are the one who has to redefine morality to make your truth fit. That is the conflict that you face and the only way you can resolve it is by changing the meaning of morality. [/quote]Who would take care of the 1000's of babies that were saved? one of the 8 people left on the planet? what would they eat? you do know they did not have powered baby formula back then right? Who would care for them when they got older? Let me put it this way: what happens when there are too many predators and not enough food? after everything is eaten the predators would starve.
So even if god saved the babies, they would soon eat every thing avaiable making the whole ark effort meaningless. Look at all of the additional "clean" aniamals Noah had to take to sustain 8 people.
[quote]Again I will ask, where are there any references in the bible that explicitly state, other than your interpretation of other passages, why God chose to kill all the innocent babies in the flood?[/quote]
Gladly if you can please show where I said the wrath of God was directed only at babies.
Cut and paste the quote along with the post number.
[quote] You are attempting to speak on behalf of God, which is not your place. [/quote]
But it is.. It is the 'place' of every believer when asked a question about why he or she believes. Some answers will be more indeppth than others but all own an explaination.[quote]Your mental gymnastics and attempts to discredit my observation of your weak arguments are not good enough.[/quote]
If it were then it would be very easy for you to go line by line and disect my statement and prove me wrong on each and every level as i have done for you. But instead you lump everything to gether and make sweaping observations in an attempt to dismiss what you can not answer for.[quote]
You have failed to provide me with what I ask for, time and time again.[/quote]Cut and paste an example.
[quote] You continually try to make tenuous links using phrasing like "We know from this" - how do you know anything? The only way you could is if your knowledge was specifically guided by God. Do you make such a claim? [/quote]We know this from the bible which is specific guideance from God. so yes.
[quote]I'm not even going to leave that as a loaded question; I'll expand on it right now. I've been told by many believers of different faiths that I am special and that God has charged me with a specific task - this is all due to some work I do outside of this forum. That includes Christians, Muslims, Hindus and psychics. Now, if I were to believe them, which I don't, I would state quite clearly that I've been sent to destroy your corruption of God's true message to mankind. On what grounds could you possibly challenge me? I think I can already anticipate your answer, but I'll wait.[/quote]
why do you think I need to challenge you at all? You came here asking me questions. AND you asked that I directly address a thread you were going to post... So again it seems as if your challenging me, not the otherway round.(was my response as you predicted?) It was easy enough to predict. After all it reflects your actions and the request you made.
