RE: Do atheists need some faith?
July 19, 2012 at 1:24 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2012 at 2:03 pm by Simon Moon.)
(July 19, 2012 at 12:53 pm)Felasco Wrote: Whether another method is available doesn't speak to whether evidence, argument and logic are qualified to determine whether a god exists.
I completely understand. But what else do I have to go on?
I am not claiming to know that I have all the tools needed to determine whether a god exists of not. My position is, that given what is currently available, I am unable to justify the belief that a god exists.
My atheism is a completely provisional position based on the current best methods to determine whether something is true, or at least likely to be true.
Quote:It's not that hard to propose that the abilities of a single species on a single planet, in one of billions of galaxies, would most likely not be qualified to answer such a huge question such as "what does or doesn't lie at the heart of all reality?"
I completely agree.
That's why I never claim to know, with absolute certainty, that a god does not exist.
But I have to be able to base my beliefs on something. The single best method humans have to determine if a belief is true, or at least likely to be true, is demonstrable evidence, reasoned argument and valid logic.
Quote:The evidence seems to indicate that aren't exactly a genius species.
Again we agree. I admit we have limitations.
But I can't base my beliefs on something that we might or might not be intelligent enough to determine. I am a human, I only have the mental tools available to me as a human.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.