RE: Do atheists need some faith?
July 19, 2012 at 8:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2012 at 8:12 pm by Simon Moon.)
(July 19, 2012 at 7:02 pm)Felasco Wrote:Quote:But I have to be able to base my beliefs on something.
It seems fair to ask why we have to have a belief on this subject, one way or the other. Please understand, I'm not challenging your personal decision to have a belief, but asking the question in a general way about all of us. Why are we in such a big hurry to have an answer? What's so wrong with "I don't know"?
When it comes to the existence of gods, I have no beliefs. That's why I'm an atheist.
I am fine with answering "I don't know". When it comes to whether gods exist or not, "I don't know" is my position.
Quote:And yet, after thousands of years, neither reason or faith have resolved the question. The conversation remains right about where it's always been. The evidence, reason and logic seem to be saying that what we're doing is not working.
Now what?
The conversation may be right about where it's always been, but there is less justification to believe gods exist than ever.
Actually, reason has worked very well to continue to decrease the places where gods can hide. Reason taught us that gods are not responsible for; disease, floods, famine, earthquakes, droughts, etc. Now it looks like gods aren't even able to hide in the existence of the universe anymore.
Now what?
I continue to not have any beliefs with regards to the existence of gods until their existence can be justified.
By the way, atheism and agnosticism are not mutually exclusive positions.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.