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The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
(July 20, 2012 at 11:25 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Perhaps (and seemingly to me), this is impossible. We can be created as saints/angel like, but we couldn't have gone through the struggle, and earned value from struggle, and built character in this sense.

I don't think the value that comes out of free-will, and character building, can come out by being automatically given this characteristic.

Then, this betrays God's inadequacy. If he were better at his job, he could invent a universe where character building is unnecessary for a person to be mentally well-adjusted. He would not allow it that people randomly suffer far more for no deserving reason.

For the general concept of God, nothing should be impossible. If he wants things to be any kind of way, he only need will it to be, as he is said to have created the universe. God neglected to prevent the existence of suffering, and if he is all-knowing, then he did it on purpose.
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RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense. - by Ryantology - July 20, 2012 at 11:36 pm

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