RE: The argument against "evil", theists please come to the defense.
July 26, 2012 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: July 26, 2012 at 3:19 pm by fr0d0.)
@ Skepsis
I was going to add that I'm pretty happy with what we've concluded already. Those circles we're tangled in I don't expect resolution to. Although I've seen some progression in your thinking, and I hope you have in mine.
Heaven is not a corporeal world. Heaven is an ethereal world. God did create heaven, and all things lead to it. If that's what you want of God then God has provided it.
I fail to see unnecessry sufferring. Sufferring is a necessary part of nature. In the scheme of things (good and bad together, which is neither good nor bad), nature works.
If you can say, like Skepsis has said above, that this world is a beautiful and wonderful place, then how can you not say that this is not a beautiful and wonderful creation? I don't separate the two.
I was going to add that I'm pretty happy with what we've concluded already. Those circles we're tangled in I don't expect resolution to. Although I've seen some progression in your thinking, and I hope you have in mine.
(July 26, 2012 at 8:33 am)Faith No More Wrote: If he [God] is capable of creating a suffering free world, as you contend he is since he created heaven, why not bypass the whole earth thing and just create heaven?
Heaven is not a corporeal world. Heaven is an ethereal world. God did create heaven, and all things lead to it. If that's what you want of God then God has provided it.
I fail to see unnecessry sufferring. Sufferring is a necessary part of nature. In the scheme of things (good and bad together, which is neither good nor bad), nature works.
If you can say, like Skepsis has said above, that this world is a beautiful and wonderful place, then how can you not say that this is not a beautiful and wonderful creation? I don't separate the two.