(July 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: Unfortunately your 'plain' logic consists of I am right as I am right. People who want some form of credibility commonly outline their position.
Read again. The logic behind why your position is self-defeating is clearly outlined.
(July 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: This statement admits you don't consider what I say, so I wonder why you're responding at all. How you claim to address any points or questions I have made, will remain a mystery inside your own head. Even if they do come out they still will remain a mystery.
No mystery to anyone with cognitive faculties. If you actually read the posts, you'd find that your points and questions have been addressed. That you failed to understand the response is not ground for asserting that they weren't addressed.
(July 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: Comprehension fail and strawman. Where did I say science can "only" measure?
Here:
"If you claim that only science can determine what reality is, and science measures, then...."
By concluding from the given premises that "science can measure reality", you have made the assumption that the only way science can determine something is by measurement. A comparative statement would be using "criminals do bad things" and "a criminal takes care of his parents" to conclude taking care of one's parents is a bad thing.
(July 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: You claimed the ability to measure is non-sensical. If you have a point I would suggest making it.
No, I've said that the idea of measuring reality is nonsensical. And that establishes my point regarding comprehension failure on your part.
(July 26, 2012 at 7:29 pm)Selliedjoup Wrote: You have written several posts all of which say very little. It you feel one of these posts perfectly illustrates your position, that's up to you to highlight and not for me to assume.
You mean this one?
https://atheistforums.org/thread-13879-p...#pid315103