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Paul's Beliefs
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RE: Paul's Beliefs
(July 27, 2012 at 9:15 am)Drich Wrote:
(July 27, 2012 at 1:54 am)FallentoReason Wrote:
"The mystery about Christ, which in former generations was not revealed to men, is now disclosed to dedicated apostles and prophets through the Spirit."
-Ephesians 3:4,5

I propose that Paul never referred to an Earthly Christ but a Spiritual one. This is made clear in verse 4 which implies the mystery of Christ wasn't made known by Jesus himself (really?) but instead, all mysteries of Christ Jesus were made known to everyday apostles through spiritual revelation.

Big Grin you are aware the Paul's works includes passages beyond Eph 3:4,5 right?

Yeah of course. I just think these couple of verses capture exactly the disturbing fact that Paul might not have believed in an Earthly Christ but one whose deeds happened spiritually, much like Mithra slaying the bull in another realm as opposed to that being literal history.

Quote:Like the book of Romans, 1Cor 1:13, you know what do your own work..
start at page 5 and go forward.
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/inde...number=101

I just don't understand how Paul, according to you, speaks of an earthly crucifixion but apart from that knows next to nothing about the man he devoted his life to. Sure, it's an argument from silence, but the gap here better have some sort of justification because it's damn big... big enough that I don't see why Paul wasn't preaching a Spiritual Christ. The gap definitely allows for that.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 1:54 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 2:57 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 7:13 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by padraic - July 27, 2012 at 4:30 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by cratehorus - July 27, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 27, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 27, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - July 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - July 29, 2012 at 2:08 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 27, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Angrboda - July 28, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 6:44 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 12:39 am
Re: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 29, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 29, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 29, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 30, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 1:25 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 1:53 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 31, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 31, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 31, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - August 1, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - August 1, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - August 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - August 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - August 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm

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