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Paul's Beliefs
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RE: Paul's Beliefs
(July 27, 2012 at 12:00 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Yeah of course. I just think these couple of verses capture exactly the disturbing fact that Paul might not have believed in an Earthly Christ but one whose deeds happened spiritually, much like Mithra slaying the bull in another realm as opposed to that being literal history.
If paul does not believe in Christ why does he teach the crusifiction?

Romans 1:16
[ The Just Live by Faith ] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
118.Romans 3:22
even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference;
Romans 3:21-23 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
119.Romans 3:24
being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
Romans 3:23-25 (in Context) Romans 3 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
120.Romans 5:1
[ Faith Triumphs in Trouble ] Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 5:1-3 (in Context) Romans 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
121.Romans 5:6
[ Christ in Our Place ] For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Romans 5:5-7 (in Context) Romans 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
122.Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

191.1 Corinthians 1:12
Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.”
1 Corinthians 1:11-13 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
192.1 Corinthians 1:13
Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
1 Corinthians 1:12-14 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
193.1 Corinthians 1:17
For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.
1 Corinthians 1:16-18 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
194.1 Corinthians 1:18
[ Christ the Power and Wisdom of God ] For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:17-19 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
195.1 Corinthians 1:23
but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling block and to the Greeks foolishness,
1 Corinthians 1:22-24 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
196.1 Corinthians 1:24
but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 1:23-25 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Quote:I just don't understand how Paul, according to you, speaks of an earthly crucifixion but apart from that knows next to nothing about the man he devoted his life to. Sure, it's an argument from silence, but the gap here better have some sort of justification because it's damn big... big enough that I don't see why Paul wasn't preaching a Spiritual Christ. The gap definitely allows for that.
Then read the passages again. Paul teaches the crusified and resurrected Christ.
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Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 1:54 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 2:57 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 3:24 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 27, 2012 at 7:13 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by padraic - July 27, 2012 at 4:30 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 3:09 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by cratehorus - July 27, 2012 at 4:29 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 27, 2012 at 9:15 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 12:00 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 27, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 27, 2012 at 11:53 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 12:11 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 12:33 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 7:34 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2012 at 11:04 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - July 27, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 27, 2012 at 9:39 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - July 29, 2012 at 2:08 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2012 at 8:33 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 27, 2012 at 8:44 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 27, 2012 at 11:42 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 12:23 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Angrboda - July 28, 2012 at 12:29 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 1:07 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 9:30 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Justtristo - July 28, 2012 at 6:44 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 12:39 am
Re: Paul's Beliefs - by fr0d0 - July 28, 2012 at 2:40 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 4:26 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 10:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 28, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 28, 2012 at 11:24 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 1:46 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 29, 2012 at 8:58 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 29, 2012 at 12:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 29, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 30, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 29, 2012 at 11:12 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - July 31, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 29, 2012 at 11:23 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 1:25 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 1:53 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 2:00 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 2:15 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 30, 2012 at 10:46 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - July 31, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 31, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Drich - July 31, 2012 at 9:57 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - July 31, 2012 at 10:46 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - August 1, 2012 at 1:44 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - August 1, 2012 at 2:21 am
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Undeceived - August 1, 2012 at 12:59 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by FallentoReason - August 1, 2012 at 11:01 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by The Grand Nudger - August 1, 2012 at 1:02 pm
RE: Paul's Beliefs - by Minimalist - August 1, 2012 at 2:01 pm

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