(July 30, 2012 at 9:46 am)Rhythm Wrote: Until something immaterial comes along, there's really no way to proceed otherwise while making claims of knowledge. At what point will you be addressing materialism as it is found today as opposed to materialism as it was presented a century ago? This is all you have isn't it? All that's left of your objections is to bitch and moan about the world around you (and of course others seemingly dry appraisal of the same) because it didn't live up to your magical expectations. Well, I'm sorry that it worked out that way.
How would you to propose to measure that which is immaterial, or has no means to be scientifically proven? You can assume it doesn't exist, and this is why your view is an applied belief. You're welcome to make claims to knowledge of what we can observe, but claiming any degree of knowledge beyond this is pointless.
At what point will you propose your view of 'materialism'? You've highlighted the difference between classifical and contemporary materialism so it's up to you to state what your position is and how it differs from classical materialism. So far only a classical materialist view as been presented, so despite your claim of it not being classical, I've addressed the points raised, not the tag of classical. Change what you assume if you want to assess a different position.
Why do you think I'm 'bitching' about the world around me? It seems more here seem are disillusioned by it than me. I started out as an atheist and am now agnostic. I didn't start out with any magical expecations, I would others here began with these, so it would be a downer for them
