(August 4, 2012 at 10:59 am)Drich Wrote: Again you are only furthering my point by appealing to wiki. You have to redefine faith apart from the faith found in Heb 11, in order to make your arguement work. for why would anyone assemble a 'faith' outside of the faith God calls for in His bible? (the only book that defines God). Regaurdless of the english word we use to describe what Hebrews 11 outlines (the whole chapter) it is what is found in Hebrews 11 God is expecting from us. Not what you or wikipedia or anyone elses decides to lable 'faith.'
So depite what you understand faith to be, God says the faith He requires is indeed based in solid evidence. Evidence He provides when one asks, seeks, and knocks as He perscribes.
So you concede my points?
1) Christians have no faith in God in the broader sense of the word. They put all their faith in what the bible directs them to believe.
2) There is no justification for thinking the origins of the bible divine. But the bible itself will tell you what is or is not divine so just assume it anyway.
