RE: Olympics
August 15, 2012 at 7:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2012 at 7:42 pm by Tiberius.)
(August 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm)jonb Wrote: Oh my goodness, You realise If an employer verbably says to do this you have to do that it constitutes a contract.Yes. My point was, the word "contract" used in the articles refers to the contract between the government and the company, not the company and the workers.
You said:
Quote:Once the contract is made it covered the stewards for both events.What you were arguing is that people were coerced into the contract for the Olympics, when they clearly weren't. They were told that in order to get a paid job at the Olympics, they would have to do a trial unpaid job for the Jubilee (which lasted a day...a Sunday at that). This isn't coercion, it's a form of internship; a trial for the real job. The articles seem to suggest that the contract given to the workers was this:
1) Unpaid work for the Jubilee.
2) If unpaid work is satisfactory, paid work for the Olympics.
That's a perfectly fine contract, especially for someone unemployed. If I were unemployed, I wouldn't mind working for free if it meant I had the chance to get a paid job later. Under the current welfare program, if you are an unpaid worker, you still get your welfare cheque, so it's not like they weren't getting any money at all.
(August 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm)Tiberius Wrote: I did not realise that these companies paid benefits to the unemployed, so it is no surprise to me a company would not mention the removal of benefits.I said there was no mention of the removal of benefits in any of this. In other words, no article you linked me to (as far as I could tell) mentioned that their benefits were removed if they didn't volunteer.
Now, if they were told that their benefits would be removed if they got the paid, well, that's what is supposed to happen. You only get benefits if you are unemployed; if you become employed, you don't get benefits anymore.
Quote:The reduction of benefits would be to do with government agencies.Right, and there is absolutely no evidence for this; it seemingly only exists inside your head. Provide evidence for your claims!
Edit: Jubilee was on a Sunday, not a Saturday, my apologies.