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Personal revelation vs. free will
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RE: Personal revelation vs. free will
August 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm
The problem with the claim is that that is a MAJOR contradiction in the definition of the god of christianity and its doctrines.

The god of the xtians is claimed to be all knowing - and that COMPLETELY prevents "FREE" will.

If the god knows everything that will happen BEFORE it happens - as claimed - then WHEN it does happen - there is NO "FREE" choice. YOU can only do what the god already knows.

IF the god already knows you are evil - you CANNOT choose to do otherwise and the god remain All Knowing.

So - since - as a human I can only make decisions and "choices" when I an alive - YOU cannot say that I am "FREE" to choose any of the possible options if the god already knows - I am not actually free to choose something the god doesn't know.
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Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 22, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cato - August 22, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by genkaus - August 22, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 22, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by genkaus - August 23, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cato - August 23, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by FallentoReason - August 23, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cinjin - August 23, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 11:21 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by pgrimes15 - August 23, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by ThomM - August 23, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by downbeatplumb - August 23, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by ThomM - August 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Faith No More - August 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Faith No More - August 23, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 24, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 24, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by pgrimes15 - August 24, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Forsaken - August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 8:18 pm

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