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Personal revelation vs. free will
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RE: Personal revelation vs. free will
In my peculiar imagination, I see it as a religious version of The Truman Show. If you haven't seen it but would like to, please do so before reading any further as there's going to be a few spoilers. Anyway, the only source of information regarding God, JC, Nazareth, and all the rest of the story is inside this bubble of mythology called the bible, which is like the huge studio that is Truman's whole world. Any curiosity Truman may have about the truth of what he's told is punished in some way, so he becomes conditioned not to question the story.

Once a believer comes into contact with the edge of their bubble-world, whether through education, chance or deliberately as Truman did, they come to realise that there might be a previously unknown world of knowledge waiting for them outside. Sometimes they find the courage and the motivation to open that door and step through, as Truman did. Mostly though, they will deny the edge of their world is even there and that's when the ad hoc rationalisations come puking up, from argument by numbers to the testimony of personal revelation. I just wish there were more Trumans with the courage to step through that door and view the bubble from the outside where the world may be bigger and scarier but the light is better.

I hope this makes sense, my brain does often have a strange way of reading the world.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 22, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cato - August 22, 2012 at 11:38 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by genkaus - August 22, 2012 at 11:51 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 22, 2012 at 11:56 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by genkaus - August 23, 2012 at 12:07 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 12:17 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cato - August 23, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by FallentoReason - August 23, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 9:53 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cinjin - August 23, 2012 at 10:09 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 10:41 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 11:21 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 1:11 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 9:37 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 10:07 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by pgrimes15 - August 23, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by ThomM - August 23, 2012 at 6:48 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 1:25 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by downbeatplumb - August 23, 2012 at 2:18 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by ThomM - August 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Faith No More - August 23, 2012 at 4:22 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 4:42 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Faith No More - August 23, 2012 at 4:46 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 4:56 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 6:51 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 7:42 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 7:52 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 8:23 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 9:55 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 10:14 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 23, 2012 at 11:19 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 10:21 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 23, 2012 at 11:27 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Drich - August 24, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by jonb - August 24, 2012 at 7:08 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by pgrimes15 - August 24, 2012 at 7:05 am
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Forsaken - August 24, 2012 at 4:54 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 7:09 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 7:20 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 7:35 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Gambit - August 24, 2012 at 7:40 pm
RE: Personal revelation vs. free will - by Cyberman - August 24, 2012 at 8:18 pm

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