RE: Personal revelation vs. free will
August 23, 2012 at 9:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm by Drich.)
(August 23, 2012 at 2:15 pm)jonb Wrote:(August 23, 2012 at 1:11 pm)Drich Wrote: How is what you have done for your son any different than what God has done for us through Christ on the cross?
Coming from a Christian, I will take that as a complement, I'm having a tee shirt made so I can show it to the Pope. Unfortunately the desire of a mythical deity that I believe and worship is the exact opposite, of what I wish from my son.
...And yet you said you would allow you son to rebel and let Him go his own way. I guess what you meant by that is that he be allowed to go his own way IF that way is not towards God.
(August 23, 2012 at 2:32 pm)ThomM Wrote: The problem with the claim is that that is a MAJOR contradiction in the definition of the god of christianity and its doctrines.
The god of the xtians is claimed to be all knowing - and that COMPLETELY prevents "FREE" will.
If the god knows everything that will happen BEFORE it happens - as claimed - then WHEN it does happen - there is NO "FREE" choice. YOU can only do what the god already knows.
IF the god already knows you are evil - you CANNOT choose to do otherwise and the god remain All Knowing.
So - since - as a human I can only make decisions and "choices" when I an alive - YOU cannot say that I am "FREE" to choose any of the possible options if the god already knows - I am not actually free to choose something the god doesn't know.
you guys MUST come off an assembly line somewhere.