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[genkaus]

I like how the last line you've allowed the person in a coma to be executed. good one.

I leave that choice up to his living will and his caretakers.

You're still arbitrarily imposing that everything moral is also rational.

No, I'm not. There is nothing arbitrary about it.

Why not just assume the opposite?

Because there is not reason to assume the opposite.

Rationality or irrationality, who cares. The drug cartels in Mexico or any group of organized crime don't and they get away with it.

For now. Their getting away is what we seek to eliminate as a society.

"Be rational, it's the right thing to do!" is this your motto? Genkausiadit

No, my motto is "Be rational, it's the rational thing to do."

Darwin doesn't agree with you.

It'd be hard for him to do so, since he never talked to me.

At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes … will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.

Charles Darwin, "The Descent of Man", 2nd edition, New York, A L. Burt Co., 1874, p. 178

Interesting. I don't see any of my arguments being addressed here.

Bottom line is you can live however you want as long as you can get away with it, if we follow your reasoning.

No, that's the top line, you moron. One doesn't just get to "live however one wants" just by wanting it. In order to live however you want you need to figure out exactly what you want, how to get there and how to stay there. That'd require the utmost level of rationality to achieve and the question of "getting away with it" wouldn't even enter the scenario, because less the chances of "getting away with it", the farther you are from "living how you want".

Nearly 185,000 killings went unsolved from 1980 to 2008 in the U.S.
Why should these murderers care about any rationality you want to impose on them? They got away with it.

For now.

Irrationality is better in their eyes.

Is it? You really think they want to live as murderers, afraid that they could go to jail at any moment.

Who's to say your survival is rational for the survival of someone else?

Because I have something they might need for their survival.

Sorry Genkaus we gotta make room in this world for others. It's rational like you said.

There is more than enough room for everyone.

Remember don't start getting emotional. It's irrational LOL!

Why'd you think getting emotional is irrational? That's just stupid.