(August 25, 2012 at 10:30 pm)Atom Wrote: ...
I haven't heard any argument against the proposition I offered: Jesus was a real person. It is definitely a fallacy to argue that a majority opinion is wrong on the basis that it is a majority opinion. Two names were dropped as supposedly having opposition opinions, but I've heard no rebuttal and minority opinions are available to argue just about anything about Jesus a person could want believe.
Here are some extra biblical references by ancient non-christian historians and the locations where you can read what they said about Jesus:
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I never argued that a majority opinion is wrong because it's a majority.
The two names were Richard Carrier, and Robert M. Price. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Carrier
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._Price
Richard Carrier has lengthy review of Erhman's book on Jesus: http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/1026/
Robert M. Price has many books written such as The Incredible Shrinking Son of Man or The Christ Myth Theory and Its Problems.
You can find their articles on infidels.org
The quotes you listed post-date the life time of Christ. The first two can be shown to be partial or full interpolations.
Others here can argue better than I can for mythicism. I'm just in this thread to combat fallacies and clear up misrepresentations of the position.
My ignore list
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).