Philosophical Buddhist who is still an atheist

[Jeffonthenet]

Now, now, don't be changing the subject with an irrelevant exegesis. The topic was God's grace. If God's grace is necessary, than how am I responsible for it being required? If it's not necessary, your doctrine is wrong. Either I'm responsible for meeting a bar I can't meet, or your God is a Karmic leech. It's a simple dichotomy. Feel free to carve out a third option if you can. But quibbling about the metaphysics implied by the word "destiny" does not cut the mustard.

I am not claiming that you are responsible for meeting a bar you cannot meet. Indeed, I agree that this would be wrong. I am not sure what you mean about God's grace being necessary. Philosophically speaking, I would think that God's grace (His undeserved favor) being for any given person is contingent (as opposed to necessary) upon two things… the sin of person X and the free choice of God.