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My Defense of Christianity.
RE: My Defense of Christianity.
Welcome.
(August 31, 2012 at 10:20 am)Abel Wrote:
(August 31, 2012 at 9:33 am)FallentoReason Wrote: You being a Christian means you have faith in the God of the Bible. Answer me this: why does Jesus have to be human? Do you not have the faith that Paul was communicating with God Almighty through spiritual revelations of the mysteries of Christ Jesus as the epistles suggest?

Why so little faith?

Good Morning. I am new here and I am a born again Christian. I would like to answer this question you asked. Jesus had to be human because we are human. He died to pay the sin debt for all humans, so He too had to be one of us. In the O.T. they sacrificed bulls and goats as a temporary covering for sins, but as Hebrews points out, those sacrifices never completely removed sin. The blood of Christ will remove the sin and the stain it leaves.

Sure, theologically I know what you're saying. Is it fair to say Paul doesn't seem to mind how Jesus was crucified? He's content with his spiritual revelations of a Christ who was crucified and that's all he seems to talk about. There's no 3 year ministry to be found.

Quote:Paul communicated with the resurrected Jesus directly when on the road to Damascus. He communicated with Jesus personally on several occasions. He also received revelations through the Spirit as well.

Paul is the only one in the NT who claims to have encountered Jesus, only that it was a spiritual encounter.

(August 31, 2012 at 10:24 am)CBA222 Wrote:
Quote:At the end of Matthew 20, Jesus makes several implicit claims to deity. He assumed, for example, that
His life would be a pattern for ours. Only God has the right to assume that all people made in His image
should conform to His image, so that was an implicit claim of deity. And when He goes through the
poetic parallelism, He calls Himself the Son of Man who came to give His life as a ransom, which is
saying He is greater than great and also that His life can be a ransom for many. These are all points at
which Jesus makes implicit claims of deity

Why should I trust what 'Matthew' says about Jesus? 'Matthew' never met him and actually used Mark as the basis for his Gospel.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 30, 2012 at 2:30 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 30, 2012 at 2:46 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Rayaan - August 30, 2012 at 3:00 am
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RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 3:43 am
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RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 30, 2012 at 8:01 am
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 30, 2012 at 8:34 am
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RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by FallentoReason - August 31, 2012 at 8:18 pm
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RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:22 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Faith No More - August 31, 2012 at 10:12 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by CBA222 - August 31, 2012 at 10:25 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 10:27 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by greneknight - August 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Cyberman - August 31, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: My Defense of Christianity. - by Minimalist - August 31, 2012 at 10:33 pm
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