(August 31, 2012 at 10:33 am)Abel Wrote:(August 31, 2012 at 10:15 am)greneknight Wrote: No. You've got to stretch the word a mile long. Name me one. In St John's Gospel, which was written MUCH later and the church had time to form its theology, the divinity assertion suddenly becomes forceful.
Actually there are several verses that confirm the Deity of Christ:
Peter affirms Jesus' deity: Mark 8:29 And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
Demons admit Jesus was God: Luke 4:41 And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God. And he rebuking them suffered them not to speak: for they knew that he was Christ.
Jesus, Himself, said He was God: Mark 14:61-62 But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed? And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Before any of this becomes meaningful, there's some things that need to be established, namely, that Mark, Matthew, Luke and John were indeed the people who wrote the Gospels attributed to them. The problem is that the only proof for this comes from 'tradition'. If we're being specific, then tradition actually means to say that the Gospels never get quoted by name until 185 C.E. No early church father ever refers to the four Gospel authors by name. In other words, they're written anonymously, with the first one (Mark) heavily using the OT as the source for Jesus' life. Somewhere in this thread I gave 3 examples of details about the crucifixion that came straight from Psalm 22 (e.g. The last words of Jesus came from Psalm 22:1).
The Gospels cannot be used to prove any detail of a human by the name of Jesus until evidence shows they are genuine history.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle