(September 2, 2012 at 7:27 am)genkaus Wrote:(September 2, 2012 at 5:47 am)Godschild Wrote: God is the giver of life, whether anyone likes it or not, since life belongs to the one who created it only the creator has a right to take it. Much like an artist is the only one who has the right to destroy his works.
Wrong on both counts. An artist doesn't have the right to destroy his work once someone else owns it and god wouldn't have any rights over the life once he has given it away.
(September 2, 2012 at 5:51 am)Godschild Wrote: Once again you amaze me in how small your understanding of morality is. Secular morality can be what ever any one person determines at any given time, as long as they have the control to enforce it.
No, it can't. Secular morality has to be rationally justifiable to be enforced - otherwise its not secular.
You are absolutely wrong on both accounts, first of all you added to my statement about the artist so you fail to prove any point. I never said the artist sold his works and second God does not give away life He created it and it is His for eternity, He is the One who payed for it on the cross. He makes it clear, what was done on the cross applies to the past, present and future. Go study scriptures then come back and try and make a reasonable argument.
Secular morality is what the ones in power determine it to be, why don't you go argue your point with the Chinese or Russians, tell them they have to apply morality as you see it. First you should become a citizen of those countries and then tell them.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.