(September 3, 2012 at 5:23 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(September 3, 2012 at 5:20 pm)idunno Wrote: Haha, I've never argued that you can't make a choice, if that's what you've taken from what I've said you've misunderstood me. My whole point is that a choice does not necessitate alternative options.Yes, you have, every-time you mentioned that some entity had knowledge of future events, including my "choices".
Quote:I suppose implicit in all of this is the distinction between chronological and logical priority. God's foreknowledge is chronologically prior, but my choice is logically prior. His foreknowing doesn't make my choice for me, I do.No you don't (but to be fair it isn't his knowing that "makes the choice for you" either)- if the events are determined- which they would be- as a prerequisite of knowledge.
Thank you Rhythm, I think you subtly agreed that omniscience doesn't destroy free will!

Now determinism resulting from environment and such is a whole other can of worms which I haven't been trying to address here.