(September 4, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(September 4, 2012 at 4:34 am)FallentoReason Wrote: To answer that, we need to understand where 'Mark' copied from to construct this bit of Jesus' life.
Jeremiah 16:16
Behold, I am sending for many fishers, declares the LORD, and they shall catch them. And afterward I will send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain and every hill, and out of the clefts of the rocks.
Only one of two places in the OT where this metaphor is used.
Isnt it great that "we" already understood that link between the OT prophecy and Jesus.
Thanks for helping to amplify my point.
(September 4, 2012 at 4:43 am)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Oh, I misread this part. I see what you're trying to say. I don't know why the first two points of that list were brought up. We're not talking about that. We're talking about preaching to gentiles. On the last two points...I don't think Jesus ever said to preach to gentiles.
More circular reasoning. You're quoting Jesus to prove that Jesus really said that!
I'm not quoting Jesus to prove Jesus said it.
Answer the question.
Is this a later...new wine into old wineskins, addition to the Gospel?
Your claim seems to be that the notion of preaching to all nations was controversial to Peter - the fisherman.
I entirely agree with teaearlgreyhot. Jesus was only interested in preaching to the Jews. Christianity was meant to be a parochial religion, a Jewish sect that looked forward to the second coming of Jesus to free Israel of Roman rule. All Christians know this in our hearts. It's just that some of us suppress it and pretend to ourselves that Jesus meant to preach to the Gentiles which is totally bunkum.