(September 15, 2012 at 9:19 pm)Tino Wrote:To put a little background to this the person I was debating with was spewing out the crap that the constitution of the U.S. does not have a separation of church and state. I say that the establishment clause implies a separation because you can't really follow the clause without the separation of church and state. In past debates we have been back and forth on this issue and I've been killing him on this. Then he finds this video about Barton and asks me about what country's money I spend (in reference to "In God We Trust" that is printed on our) . I don't have the time to get sucked in to this so I discredit Barton and the video. We go back and forth about it. Then on a separate post (I believe it was two) he uses the same video against me. He's taunting me and asking me why I haven't answered his question. I really didn't have the time to debate in depth on this and I really want to continue the attack on the person behind the video -Barton. It's at that point I ask for help on Athiest Forums. Y'all have a wider knowledge base than I do and I thought I should tap into this. So then I get the information I need -actually I get more than I needed and I wind up buying a book about ii- and I'm ready to continue the debate and the person I'm debating with goes on vacation. When he comes back and he thinks I can't fight the video he'll be back with it.(September 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: I don't know why I do this but I debate with people on Facebook about issues like the separation of church and state. I have a friend of mine who has used this video against me several times. I can't seem to get past this with logical arguments and I don't have time to chase down all this bullshit. I can do some but this is a lot of crap. Help please.
What is the claim they're making that the video is supposed to support?
(September 15, 2012 at 11:42 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: My FB friend who keeps using this as evidence that the U.S. was and is a Christian country posted his crap and then two days later went on a week long cruiz.
How does he define a "christian country"?
If you're going to argue with this guy you've got to nail down the arguments into specifics.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise
