(September 18, 2012 at 9:24 am)Drich Wrote:(September 18, 2012 at 7:38 am)Puddleglum Wrote: OK Christians. Your chance. Convince me god is real.
Hint: I don't believe the bible is the revealed word of god so don't quote passages at me as if they are some sort of authority.
I'm an atheist. I have a degree in Philosophy so I follow logic. Don't bother with heartwarming stories or blackmail.
You do know in Christianity it is not the 'Christian' who is to convince you of anything right? Our sole responsiablity begins and ends with directing those who want to know God to the path He perscribes to find Him.
That can done several ways. By, living an example. By Answering questions. By worshiping together. Or a combination of all three. Forcing someone to believe through badgering or make someone accept God's truth through Logic and philosphy is not consistent with the charge we have been given. We all have been given this life in order to make a choice as to where we wish to spend our time in eternity. If you choose in your heart not to want to be with God then it would be wrong to force you to accept Him. In short it is God's responsiablity to provide you what you need to acheive belief and help you maintain it. It is your responsiablity to ask, seek and knock for these things if you do not already have them. God makes a promise. If you hold up your end He will open the gates of heaven and to you and hold up His end.
Nobody chooses in his heart not to believe in God. It's just that God is playing such a wonderfully successful game of hide-and-seek that there is not the smallest trace of evidence of his existence. Anyone with some intelligence is bound to conclude that a being that claims to be all-loving, all-compassionate and interfering in human affairs and even answers prayers (can you believe that?) should at least leave a blazing trail of evidence of his existence. But to have zilch evidence speaks loudly of his non-existence. Atheists and rational Christians are just being honest when we dispute the supernatural bits of religion.