(September 18, 2012 at 11:02 pm)Ryantology Wrote: I would not demand a change of venue without a good reason, but whatever. That is a terrible comparison.My comparesons are usally identified as 'terriable' when followed up by an empty one line rebuttal. So thanks..
Quote:A God who willingly allows a person to die a terrible death in spite of having the power to prevent it, for whatever possible justification he might offer, is a God not worth the spit of a man's curse, much less his worship.Perspective. You see death as the end a closure of life. To God and to the recently deceased, Death is one's birth into eternity. So why would God prevent one's birth into eternal life?
Quote:A being with that capacity who fails at the moral obligation of helping his own children in pain and terror (or outright preventing it) is a creature uniquely unqualified to dictate morals to me.Again and Again. 'Morality' is a crap standard of man's own self righteousness. It means nothing unless one lives in a very specific soceity in at very specific time. a few hundred miles one way or another or a decade or so sooner or later and morality changes.
I was a Child who suffered a great deal and as an adult would not change or trade one instance of suffering for everything I want now. 'Suffering' is also a matter of perspective. To those who endure great suffering, it is just life or the acceptance of death. It is to those who see it and do nothing that can not abid 'others' inactivity in the face of it. It seems one's conscience can only abid one persons complacncy, but not anothers.
Quote:You can say that I can't judge a God by the morals of men. I say, in response to that, that a creature who can't pass the presumably poor test of my mere human morals is in no position to presume that his morals are superior to mine.Funny that you say that. For God says something similar. "Judge not lest ye be judge according to the same measure you have used on others." In that passage Christ directs this warning about judging your neighbor, but I am sure the standard applies to your judgement of God. For instance if you can not abid a God who see a needs, but fails to help some suffering kid, (iyo) then how can God abid you for ignoring that same Kid? After all He put the need of that Child on your heart and placed you in a position to do something (even though you may have convnced yourself that you can do nothing)
You will be weighed and measured according your very own set of scales. The question will become will you be found wanting? Can you measure up to your own 'morality?' The same morality you presume to judge God against?