(September 18, 2012 at 11:21 pm)Puddleglum Wrote: Oddly I make all me belief decisions that way. If someone gives me a tip about the stock market ( a regular occurrence) I do my due diligence and check out the company involved before I invest. Are you claiming that I shouldn't do this and just trust the tip? Why?Because it is not possiable to know all aspects of everything we are expected to believe living in our soceity. Ie, my example on gravity.
Quote:What a strange question to ask an Atheist! We don't believe we have any such choice. We live then die and no longer exist and that's an end to the matter.Which again is a desision you make. Just like a man who shunns a formal education. Just because he has choosen to not educate himself doesn't mean an education is not avaiable, does not mean higher learning is not possiable.
Quote:But we don't love god to start with. We cannot love what doesn't exist.Again the process starts with Want. or did you purposly ignore that word?
Quote:Know she has acknowledged that YOU believe God to be omnipotent and omniscient not that he actually is.Why don't you let the lady speak for herself? Or is that how they/you all do it where your from? (Tell women what it is they are thinking)
Quote:If I was invited to the white house I would at least expect it to be there. If I turned up and there was nothing there at all but some staffer who told me to close my eyes and just believe that it existed I would have good reason to doubt it.Maybe you are confused or I simply misjudged your life's experience. Have you died and come back, and now you are telling us there is nothing to be experienced after death? In essence "you turned up there" and found nothing?
Your disbelief or rather you ablity to disbelieve is apart of God's plan.
Quote:How do you know this? Did he tell you a or is it in the bible?He tells all of us through the bible.
Quote: If I don't believe then according to you then it is God’s plan that I don't believe.God's plan is that you have the oppertunity to not believe.
Quote: So if it is actually his plan that I don;t believe and then he tortures my soul to eternity for not believing then he is a cunt,, the most evil being that ever existed.Which is why you have been given a choice. For all will not want to love and accept God.
Quote:So the people annoying me in the street are just worshipping God? They aren;t really trying to convert me for my benefit they are just stacking up points! Thanks for for the clarification.I would say most are doing the best they can with what it is they have been given.
Quote:But lots of books advertise different gods. Why should I chose one that is utterly full of absurdities, lies, historicity and calls to genocide? The very least he could do is make rational.To who's standards? Do you forget that the values of the soceity you live in would not be the values of the people who live these events out? Since it would not make a whole lot of sense to force a different culture to adopt this generations set of values for the sake of this very specific self absorbed culture who thinks their particular post WWII morals should have been the moral standards of all time.. God simply worked with in the frame work of the people he was dealing with. (as He does now.) Which allows them to have the direction they need.
Quote:Fuck ..you are a fascist. I consider a bad dog one that attacks people for no reason, good dogs are ones that display normal dog pack behavior. All my dogs have strong wills. They are my companions not my slaves. I have rescued 4 street dogs. They are free to leave if they wish and they don't because I give them love, food and shelter, in return they give me love and protection. I don't train them to do tricks.Thye don't maul us because that isn't normal behaviour. Of course we are a vast;ly bigger threat to dogs than they are to us."Pack behavior" includes mauling and killing for sport. It seems you have over looked this in my orginal assessment. So I ask again would you keep a dog(s) who did what he wanted when he wanted? This is not limited to bodily functions. This includes mauling and killing for sport. If your 'rescue' hunted down and mauled your child would you keep that dog or have him destroyed?
We break dog of their will and impose our own. That means even if you allow that dog to have more freedoms than other, you are still putting limits on that dog.
Quote:I bet you approve of beating children.If one spares the rod He will spoil (or to literally make rotten/decay in the Hebrew) the Child. You will destroy his/her soul.
