OK Christians. your chance. Convince me of God.

[TaraJo]

I figure, if god is all knowing, it knows what criteria would have to be met to prove its existence to me. If god is all powerful, meeting that criteria is well within its reach.

You have acknoweledged God is all knowing and All powerful, and yet you command Him to seek you to save Your soul? Respectfully: Doesn't this sound silly to you? Who are you to command god to Ask, Seek and Knock for yoour attention? Isn't the Death of His Son enough for you?
Let me put it this way. If you were invited to the White House for a presidential dinner with all the world leaders present, would you demand a change of venue and demand to the world leaders that they meet you on their terms? If you did how many world leaders do you think would meet you on your terms simply because you demanded it?

That would be a good analogy, except that according to Judeo Christian mythology, god is the one making demands of me. I gotta believe, I gotta kiss his ass and I gotta follow a few hundred rules many of which don't make sense with zero evidence that he actually exists. I don't buy it.

So let's make this metaphor a little more accurate, shall we? Right now, I've got the president of the Illuminati on the phone. They're secretly controlling every government on earth. They could take you out in a second if they want to, but they don't. They love you and want a personal relationship with you. All you have to do to accept their relationship is take a whole bottle of sleeping pills. I know, I know, you probably think that will kill you, but if you really have faith, you'll be just fine.

So, does anyone want to explain why that second metaphor seems more comparable to Christian God? And if you were in this situation, wouldn't you ask for the Illuminati to do just a token gesture to show that they actually exist before you make mistakes that you can't un-make?

No where in the bible does it say God is Omni benevolent. This is a false doctrine spun from the Greek word Agape'. It mean an limitless love. God's love maybe limitless, but it remains conditional. In that God's limitless love is reserved for those who Love and Choose Him. Not all are entitled to God's Love.

So, you're saying God is an almighty narcissist? Love me or I hate you? It sure seems that way because if you don't accept his love, you get tortured for eternity. The big problem there is still pretty much the same, though: if god actually wanted someone to love him, he might do something, anything, to show that he even actually exists.

So, again, let's use a little metaphor here, shall we? Let's say my parents had another baby, before I was born, this one that I don't know about and one whose existence isn't in any historical record like family picture albums, or medical records, right? Let's say further that this child leaves and I never see him or her for 30 years, right? Would I be expected to love a brother/sister who, as far as I know doesn't even exist? Maybe you can, in a "you're my sibling so I have to love you way" or "I love all people way" but on a personal level, no, you can't. But you don't reject this sibling, either. I mean, fuck, all it would take is a picture of an older brother or meeting my big sister or something like that and, yeah, I'll be on board. And that's the point: God has given me just as much evidence that he exists as said hypothetical sibling: none! So why should I believe in one any more than I do the other?

So far, I haven't seen any supernatural deity so much as lift a finger to reveal themselves to me.

Nor will you. For you like everyone else has been commanded to humble themselves to God. If you do then God WILL Lift you up.

I'd be glad to humble myself before god, as long as I'm humbling myself before a god that actually exists. After all, I don't want to fall into a trap and start worshiping a false god that's actually a demon..... do you?

So I made a deal with anything out there you might consider a god: show me that you actually exist and I'll worship you.

I think mohamad made a simlar 'deal.' For God is not the only being out there who will answer a plea.

Interesting. If that's the case, it looks like Islam actually makes more sense than Christianity, at least as far as that goes. However, Allah also hasn't responded to my request.

I haven't had any responses; this silence leads me to believe that god either doesn't exist or wants me to believe it doesn't exist (and if my disbelief is part of god's plan, who am I to question gods plan?).

Your disbelief or rather you ablity to disbelieve is apart of God's plan.

Same difference. Anyway, free will is quite possibly the worst defense here that I can think of simply because the Bible repeatedly argues AGAINST free will. I mean, fuck, just the basic premise argues against it: we sin because we have free will but we don't have enough free will to not sin and therefore Jesus had to die for us.