OK Christians. your chance. Convince me of God.

[Drich]

There were several events 'proofs' Of which I have spoken of openly here. I talked about the first one in "thread #1" I tested positive for HIV with a viral infection usally only seen with someone who has AIDS, Two weeks later the infection and the second HIV test came back clean. (and every subsequent test.) My thread on 'Messengers/message" http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html highlights another big event.

All you can say about that was that it was a statically anomaly. Things like that happen but it's not proof of a miracle. Why doesn't God ever heal amputees? These sort of spontaneous cures are not proof of the supernatural.

Set up your argument.

1. My HIV was healed.
2. ???
3. Therefore, God exist.

Being given insight and understanding beyond my education is another big confirmation. Not just in biblical matters but in my business/line of work. I am one of 3 lead engineers on a 'green project' that will change refrigerated food distribution forever. and I graduated highschool with a 4th grade education. outside of my sun shine diploma (Which is certificate of completion of 12 years of grade school.) i have little in the way of a formal/paid education (as so many of you are so fond of pointing out.) In short I should not be here or as sucessful as I am in what I do. God opens a door and i am just smart enough to walk through it.
All that i have All that i am is a testament to God, and the full fillment of a promise He made me.

Nothing unheard of.

1. I'm really smart despite my background.
2. ???
3. Therefore, God exists.

But all of these 'big life changing things' pale in compareson to the real heart changing thing that I was shown/given. I was given direct access to God through the Holy Spirit. It started out with just a simple awareness to the sins keeping me from experienceing Him fully and over the next 20 or so years i worked on learning how to truly repent of those sins (not nessarily stop commiting them, but how and what repentance meant.) and now All I have to do is Ask God, and He will show me what has to be done to accopmlish a given task, and if I am faithful then what i ask will be given to me. I wish I could show all of you without having to take on the full responsiablity needed to show you.. Maybe that is the next thing I need to work on

I could tell you but most of you would trivialize and dismiss. One needs to see or experience What God has to offer before my words or His have any meaning. If you want a list of things anyway look up Spiritual Fruit or "Fruit of the Spirit" and "Gifts of the Spirit."

1. I changed my habits in accordance to the commands of a book I like.
2. ???
3. Therefore God exists.

All of this can be explained as your own will power to submit to an imaginary authority figure. God's supposed guidance over your life can just be chocked up to being common delusions. People of all religions can describe similar experiences. Some people think the "universe" talks to them. Some trust their horoscopes. Some trust the guidance of their dead ancestors. And they're all just as convinced as you are and can attest to similar "proof" of their supernatural guidance.

All you are Drich is a statistical anomaly. Everybody has unusual experiences and stories that would separate them apart from most of the 6.5 billion people in the world. "You're unique, just like everyone else." And instead of just recognizing this, you took the lazy route and attributed it to divine providence.

again, If there were undenyable proof then people like you would have no choice but to believe. If for no other reason then self preservation. I Never said these instances were universal proofs of God. These events (an many others) are the proofs that I needed in my own personal life to justify my faith in God. If I were one person out of the billions that have lived and are alive now, then I would dismiss my own accounts. But, as it is i am not. Billions more have similar experiences. Not anyone enough to force a non believer to believe, but enough to establish and maintain belief in one person's life.

No one has ever been saved according to what he believes God has done for someone else. Salvation is a result of a direct relationship God has with you through the blood Christ offered on your behalf.

If you want to know for yourself, then simply Ask, though prayer and petition. Seek in the bible, church and through your questions, and knock by repeating this process till you find what your heart is looking for. Let God Change your life and offer you a proof that will mean nothing to anyone else, but to you will be the like the key to faith you are looking for. All any of us needs is a mustard seed's worth of faith.