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Church state question
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RE: Church state question
Quote:What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not. [Pres. James Madison, A Memorial and Remonstrance, addressed to the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia, 1785]


Try to remind your friends that James Madison was the primary author of the Constitution....not "jesus."
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Church state question - by tfs13 - September 21, 2012 at 6:19 pm
RE: Church state question - by Autumnlicious - September 21, 2012 at 7:28 pm
RE: Church state question - by Reforged - September 21, 2012 at 7:29 pm
RE: Church state question - by TaraJo - September 21, 2012 at 7:56 pm
RE: Church state question - by Darkstar - September 21, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Church state question - by Polaris - September 21, 2012 at 10:35 pm
RE: Church state question - by Minimalist - September 21, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Church state question - by tfs13 - September 22, 2012 at 10:06 am
RE: Church state question - by TaraJo - September 22, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Church state question - by Minimalist - September 22, 2012 at 10:58 am
RE: Church state question - by Whateverist - September 24, 2012 at 10:26 am
RE: Church state question - by Brian37 - September 27, 2012 at 8:34 am
RE: Church state question - by Cyberman - September 22, 2012 at 12:21 pm
RE: Church state question - by CapnAwesome - September 22, 2012 at 1:06 pm
RE: Church state question - by Cyberman - September 22, 2012 at 1:09 pm
RE: Church state question - by tfs13 - September 23, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: Church state question - by cratehorus - September 23, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Church state question - by Polaris - September 23, 2012 at 9:19 pm
RE: Church state question - by Brian37 - September 23, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Church state question - by Cyberman - September 24, 2012 at 9:48 am

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