(September 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:But now you say the UN stole the land from Palistine, how is that any different?
It isn't different. That's the point.
It is not any different. Shitty things happen in human history and we can get quite nasty with eich other. And in the moment in close proximity to the event in time frame "self defense" makes sense. Humans don't begrudge, say a homeowner shooting a robber.
What happens however far to much in humanity, long after the fact, we become like street gangs. Someone moves in on our territory, whe shoot, claim to be justified, then they send someone to shoot our tribe, then we send someone to shoot their tribe. Long term the initial wronged party loses it's credibility because they simply want revenge. I think the same thing of Palistinians. This far too long standing beef for both parties has passed its sell by date and it is getting old real quick.
Native Americans at the time their land was being taken from them, AT THE TIME had a lagitimate beef. But no sane person today would or should give the land back.
I do not expect Jews to leave Isreal at all. But I also do not think they should milk the holocaust. I don't think they should be tearing down houses or expanding "settlements". Nor do I think they should be starving all of Palistine to death.
Isreal has weapons, the slaughtered Jews who were victims of Germany were defensless. What happened then was wrong, but that was then and this is now and I do not see them as anything less than the adult between the two who should klnow better but doesn't act like it
I am simply sick of the tit for tat childish crap both sides are guilty of..