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Divine Inspiration
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RE: Divine Inspiration
I find it quite comical Drich that you think morality counts for nothing. Upon being asked what commandments were the most important, Jesus replied with 'treat others how you would like to be treated' and 'love your neighbor'. Those are moral rules that he upheld.

On the topic of the Bible being fallible:

The oldest surviving copy of the entire Bible is the Codex Vaticanus which dates to the mid 4th century. Sadly, it puts to shame the people involved in passing on the Bible as it reveals how much that version differs to what we have today.

Passages missing in the Codex
Matthew 12:47; 16:2b-3; 17:21; 18:11; 23:14;
Mark 7:16; 9:44.46; 11:26; 15:28;
Mark 16:9–20; —The Book of Mark ends with verse 16:8, consistent with the Alexandrian text-type.
Luke 17:36, 22:43–44;
John 5:4, Pericope Adulterae (John 7:53–8:11);
Acts 8:37; 15:34, 24:7; 28:29;
Romans 16:24.
1 Peter 5:3.

Phrases not found in the Codex
Matthew 5:44 – εὐλογεῖτε τοὺς καταρωμένους ὑμᾶς, καλῶς ποιεῖτε τοῖς μισοῦσιν ὑμᾶς (bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you);
Matthew 10:37b – καὶ ὁ φιλῶν υἱὸν ἢ θυγατέρα ὑπὲρ ἐμὲ οὐκ ἔστιν μου ἄξιος (and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me) as Codex Bezae;
Matthew 15:6 – ἢ τὴν μητέρα (αὐτοῦ) (or (his) mother);
Matthew 20:23 – καὶ τὸ βάπτισμα ὂ ἐγὼ βαπτίζομαι βαπτισθήσεσθε (and be baptised with the baptism that I am baptised with), as in codices Sinaiticus, D, L, Z, Θ, 085, f1, f13, it, Syriac Sinaiticus (syrs), syrc, copsa.
Mark 10:7 – καὶ προσκολληθήσεται πρὸς τὴν γυναῖκα αὐτοῦ (and be joined to his wife), as in codices Sinaiticus, Codex Athous Lavrensis, 892, ℓ 48, Sinaitic Palimpsest (syrs), Gothic Codex Argenteus.
Mark 10:19 – μη αποστερησης omitted (as in codices K, W, Ψ, f1, f13, 28, 700, 1010, 1079, 1242, 1546, 2148, ℓ 10, ℓ 950, ℓ 1642, ℓ 1761, syrs, arm, geo) but added by a later corrector (B2).
Luke 9:55–56 – και ειπεν, Ουκ οιδατε ποιου πνευματος εστε υμεις; ο γαρ υιος του ανθρωπου ουκ ηλθεν ψυχας ανθρωπων απολεσαι αλλα σωσαι (and He said: "You do not know what manner of spirit you are of; for the Son of man came not to destroy men's lives but to save them) — omitted as in codices Sinaiticus, C, L, Θ, Ξ, 33, 700, 892, 1241, Old Syriac version (syr), copbo;
Luke 11:4 – αλλα ρυσαι ημας απο του πονηρου (but deliver us from evil) omitted. Omission is supported by the manuscripts: 75, Sinaiticus, L, f1 700 vg syrs copsa, bo, arm geo.
Luke 23:34 – "And Jesus said: Father forgive them, they know not what they do." This omission is supported by the manuscripts 75, Sinaiticusa, D*, W, Θ, 0124, 1241, a, d, syrs, copsa, copbo.

Notable wording differences in the Codex
Judges 18:30 it reads υἱὸς Μανασση (son of Manasse), Alexandrinus reads υἱοῦ Μωυσῆ (son of Mose);
Ezra 10:22 (9:22 LXX) it reads Ωκαιληδος (Alexandrinus – Ωκειδηλος) for Jozabad;
Matthew 5:22 — it lacks the word εικη (without cause), a reading supported by 67, Sinaiticus, 2174, manuscripts of Vulgate, and Ethiopian version;
Matthew 17:23 — τη τριημερα (the third day) for τη τριτη ημερα (the third day), it is singular reading;
Matthew 21:31 — ὁ ὕστερος (the last) for ὁ πρῶτος (the first), ὁ ἔσχατος (the last), or ὁ δεύτερος (the second); ὁ ὕστερος is a singular readings;
Matthew 23:38 — word ερημος (desert) is omitted, as in manuscripts Codex Regius, Corbeiensis II, Syriac Sinaiticus, copsa, bo;
Luke 4:17 — it has textual variant καὶ ἀνοίξας τὸ βιβλίον (and opened the book) together with the manuscripts A, L, W, Ξ, 33, 892, 1195, 1241, ℓ 547, syrs, h, pal, copsa, bo, against variant καὶ ἀναπτύξας τὸ βιβλίον (and unrolled the book) supported by א, Dc, K, Δ, Θ, Π, Ψ, f1, f13, 28, 565, 700, 1009, 1010 and many other manuscripts.
Luke 6:2 — οὐκ ἔξεστιν (not lawful) for οὐκ ἔξεστιν ποιεῖν (not lawful to do); the reading is supported only by 4, (Codex Bezae), Codex Nitriensis, 700, lat, copsa, copbo, arm, geo;
Luke 10:42 — ολιγων δε χρεια εστιν η ενος (few things are needfull, or only one) for ενος δε εστιν χρεια (one thing is needfull);
John 12:28 — it contains the unique textual variant δοξασον μου το ονομα. This variant is not supported by any other manuscript. The majority of the manuscripts have in this place: δοξασον σου το ονομα; some manuscripts have: δοξασον σου τον υιον (L, X, f1, f13, 33, 1241, pc, vg, syh mg, copbo).
John 16:27 — it has πατρος (the Father) instead of θεου (God);
Acts 27:16 — καυδα (name of island), this reading is supported only by 74, 1175, Old-Latin version, Vulgate, and Peshitta.
Romans 15:31 — δωροφορια for διακονια; the reading is supported by D and Ggr.
Ephesians 2:1 — αμαρτιαις ] επιθυμιαις.
Hebrews 1:3 — it has singular readings φανερων τε τα παντα τω ρηματι της δυναμεως αυτου (revealed the universe by his word of power); all of the rest manuscripts have φερων τε τα παντα τω ρηματι της δυναμεως αυτου (upholding the universe by his word of power).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Vaticanus

The Bible is fallible.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 28, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Cato - September 28, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - September 28, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Kayenneh - September 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Waratah - September 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 30, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Whateverist - October 1, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Polaris - October 2, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - October 2, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 1:24 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by KichigaiNeko - October 8, 2012 at 7:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Something completely different - October 8, 2012 at 9:13 am

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