[quote='Darkstar' pid='343744' dateline='1349064240']
[quote]Actually, it did change the meaning.[/quote]
I agree it did change the meaning beacuse Tea only retranslated one word out of the entire text. If He were honestly approaching the task all of the words in the chapter would have need to be retranslated, if not the book to maintain contextual consistancy.
[quote]0.00001% faith vs. 99.99999% lack of evidence
You have a lot more faith[/quote]You do not have the evidence you seek because your faith tells you not to bother to look.
[quote]Really? I'd like some examples, because it seems like the people in the bible were fine with it.[/quote]
so Jesus wasn't crusified because He was correcting the religious leaders of His day. They didn't have Him beaten first because He made them and their understanding of God law look foolish? Go back to moses while he was getting the commandments from God the people rebelled and created an idol even after all that they had seen. Litterally one or two generations after God had delivered these people into the promise land they had forgotten God and began to worship false Gods offering their first born sons to their false gods. (which is what this thread or the other one was orginally about/ The Passage in Judges) God's Laws have always been frown upon and reviled by people. This is not something new.
[quote]Did you ignore the previous bible passage?[/quote]Do you not understand there are two seperate religions being respersented in the bible? OT judisim and NT Christanity? You do understand we are discussing NT Christianity right?
[quote]Your logic fails then. You still haven't told me what this metaphoricl knocking is, so if you refuse to define the terms then of course you can say that I'm not knocking properly when god doesn't answer.[/quote]I have several times now I will make it more clear for you this time To Knock is to repeat the asking and seeking aspect as in the parable (the persistant neighbor knocked till He got what He needed) In turn you are to knock till you get what you Heart is asking and seeking after. Their can't be a time limit on your willingness to knock. Otherwise know God will run out your clock.
So Again to Knock as in the story/parable of Luke 11 you are to repeat the asking and seeking process till you get what your heart wants. now go back to my last post and see that i told you the same thing there. Appearently God has allowed this to be hidden from you, for you have eyes and yet do not see.
[quote]Other people have, maybe not to you. I am asking for one now.[/quote]One what now?
[quote]Well, you won't even look at the sites I've provided and yet you expect me to do reserch? I'll take your word for it then. That still opens up two problems: 1. Why do the accounts contradict each other,[/quote]They don't they are just not in the order you as a person who lives several thousand year from the recording of these events and born a several cultures away would expect to read a story.
[quote]and 2. Why does only the creatio have two accounts, and none of the other stories do? (Other than the gospels, but that is from different points of view, and they also contradict each other).[/quote]This phenoma is recorded through out Genesis. Not just in the creation account. All you need to do is look to your contradiction website and you will find other 'continuity errors' as well.
will have to finish up the rest later.
[quote]Actually, it did change the meaning.[/quote]
I agree it did change the meaning beacuse Tea only retranslated one word out of the entire text. If He were honestly approaching the task all of the words in the chapter would have need to be retranslated, if not the book to maintain contextual consistancy.
[quote]0.00001% faith vs. 99.99999% lack of evidence
You have a lot more faith[/quote]You do not have the evidence you seek because your faith tells you not to bother to look.
[quote]Really? I'd like some examples, because it seems like the people in the bible were fine with it.[/quote]
so Jesus wasn't crusified because He was correcting the religious leaders of His day. They didn't have Him beaten first because He made them and their understanding of God law look foolish? Go back to moses while he was getting the commandments from God the people rebelled and created an idol even after all that they had seen. Litterally one or two generations after God had delivered these people into the promise land they had forgotten God and began to worship false Gods offering their first born sons to their false gods. (which is what this thread or the other one was orginally about/ The Passage in Judges) God's Laws have always been frown upon and reviled by people. This is not something new.[quote]Did you ignore the previous bible passage?[/quote]Do you not understand there are two seperate religions being respersented in the bible? OT judisim and NT Christanity? You do understand we are discussing NT Christianity right?
[quote]Your logic fails then. You still haven't told me what this metaphoricl knocking is, so if you refuse to define the terms then of course you can say that I'm not knocking properly when god doesn't answer.[/quote]I have several times now I will make it more clear for you this time To Knock is to repeat the asking and seeking aspect as in the parable (the persistant neighbor knocked till He got what He needed) In turn you are to knock till you get what you Heart is asking and seeking after. Their can't be a time limit on your willingness to knock. Otherwise know God will run out your clock.
So Again to Knock as in the story/parable of Luke 11 you are to repeat the asking and seeking process till you get what your heart wants. now go back to my last post and see that i told you the same thing there. Appearently God has allowed this to be hidden from you, for you have eyes and yet do not see.
[quote]Other people have, maybe not to you. I am asking for one now.[/quote]One what now?
[quote]Well, you won't even look at the sites I've provided and yet you expect me to do reserch? I'll take your word for it then. That still opens up two problems: 1. Why do the accounts contradict each other,[/quote]They don't they are just not in the order you as a person who lives several thousand year from the recording of these events and born a several cultures away would expect to read a story.
[quote]and 2. Why does only the creatio have two accounts, and none of the other stories do? (Other than the gospels, but that is from different points of view, and they also contradict each other).[/quote]This phenoma is recorded through out Genesis. Not just in the creation account. All you need to do is look to your contradiction website and you will find other 'continuity errors' as well.
will have to finish up the rest later.
