Divine Inspiration

[Darkstar]

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this is where you spend the next 20 or so years studying these texts for yourself or have faith that those who have were faithful to their charge.

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The problem is, scientists don't look for evidence of god, nor do they avoid it.

you would like to think so.

And you would like to think not...

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We simply look at everything they know and ask ouselves "does what they have discovered suggest that there must be a god?"

God is the God of the known universe and put into place all of the processes that science is just now beginning to explain. Just because you have been able to figure out what God has done doesn't mean God didn't orginally do it in the first place.

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Why? Why do you assume that there is a god? Why couldn't the laws of nature exist without a god? Replace god with santa in the previous quote and you will see how little evidence you have for your assertion.

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Okay, that isn't what I thought you meant. The thing is, is there archeological evidence that Moses even existed?

Take any random person of that time period (not a king/pharroah or anyone of clout) and ask the same question. Does it mean that only the well to do existed then?

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Are you trying to say that Moses was so vastly unimportant to the world, despite what the bible claims he did, that there would be no evidence of his existance or of any of his actions?

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Take Noah's Ark, for instance. This is perhaps the least believeable story in the whole bible. Many people, even pastors, have re-interpreted it as simply metaphor. Where, then, do we draw the line at what is and isn't metaphor? Surely they would agree that Jesus wasn't metaphor, but perhaps Jesus was wrong, and everyone else was right about god after all...

Many more pastors believe that the ark was an actual event. Why should we look to the minority to set the standard of what this religion stands for?

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Glad we cleared that up. You actually believe that Noah's Ark could have possibly happened? And you think that pastors who do are in the majority, and are therefore credible? Now I know I don't have to take what you say seriously.

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We were? Well, I guess, sort of... I mentioned the ten commandments, which were part of the OT. Of course, we can skip over the OT as simply metaphor if you would like to.

Or we can look at it as a seperate religion "Old Testament Judisim."

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Why is it still a part of the christian bible, then?

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Can't there? What if your time limit is till death? Will god never supply an answer until you die?

Then one can go before God with a life well spent.

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Don't you think that if you never found him it would be more likely that he doesn't exist and you just wasted your whole life? Also, you aren't denying that some people will never 'find god' no matter how long they look.

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If we consider the mere possibility, even for a moment, that god might not exist, you will realize why that reasoning fails for the same reason telling someone they will know when they die fails

..And subsequently if you consider the mere possiablity that I have found what it is I was told to ask, seek and knock for the you will understand why your reasoning fails.. Because the promises that are found in the bible as still a valid way of discovering God. Why is it do you think this religion is still in practice after so many years? It is because we find what it is we are looking for.

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First, argument from age. Second, why do you not believe other religions when they tell you the same thing? No one 'discovers god' they only think they do. Why, I ask, does god value belief over worship? If he made himself known, then he could seperate non-believers into those who are truly loyal, but simply couldn't find him and those who are not. People joining for self-preservation wouldn't be an issue because god would know this already.

We cannot verify this. For someone who believes, they can easily convince themselves that any sign is god contacting them, whereas a skeptic would write it off as a natural event

One event maybe, but a series of these types of events over a life time is

not. More confirmation bias.