(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 12:20 am)Cinjin Wrote: Umm, what life has your god given?? Certainly not his own. His sons life perhaps?God has given you a life. This life He has given you was purposed for you to make a choice about where you wish to spend eternity.
Deflection - this is not the question I asked, and even if your god had "given me life," you just admitted that his sole purpose for doing so was so that he could watch me make a choice about HIM. How do you not get this??? The dude loves himself beyond imagination, not me or you pal.
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 12:20 am)Cinjin Wrote: I see no life given. How does an immortal being who gets to come back from the grave at any time and float into paradise give his life???We do not completely understand what Christ has given up in order for His sacerfice to have been sufficeint for all man kind.
Only a mortal can make a true sacrifice of his life. Not some wine making, water walking, dead raising, temporarily earth bound deity.
That's always your goto answer isn't it? I've read it from you at least a dozen times. "We just can't understand" is a copout even for an apologist. It's pathetic. It does not offer an answer for anything. It's a semi-polite way of saying, "I don't have a fucking clue how to side-step that one."
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 12:20 am)Cinjin Wrote: o please, you and GC have made it VERY clear that we've made the wrong choice.And everyone here has informed me of what they think of my choice. The difference being I do not badger belittle and mock your choice.
You're not badgering and mocking? You know damn well that there is no reason for you to be here other than to stir up hostility. You have no questions. You believe you have all the answers. Your mind is completely closed to anything outside of your cult and just being here is badgering. Admit it, you're here because you like the drama. You like the blasphemy and the mocking. You like the attention of it all. You like being a thorn in our side. On a christian forum, you're bored and you're just another sheep in the pen that no one cares about, but here you're somebody. Don't try to bull shit me by playing the martyr.
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:Cinjin Wrote:If your god is so fucking "ok" with us not wanting to be with him, than why is he casting us all into a place he made for making that choice.I think you have it backwards. Hell is the absents of Creation. All that God created is what you have turned your back on. God didn't 'create' Hell. Hell is the Darkness in which Creation was call out from. It is the oppsite of Creation and the furthest one can get from God.
Thats not even biblical, and I know of literally thousands of christians who would gladly call you a heretic for such a statement. Your god supposedly created everything and yes, that does include hell. Telling me that I'm CHOOSING hell when the bible CLEARLY says that I will be CAST into hell is just your lame apologist way of getting around the truth of the vindictive narcissistic nature of your god. To be honest, this isn't even a stretching of the truth. You are just telling an outright lie. I do not choose to go to hell and even your silly bible agrees with me. I'm getting real fucking tired of you trying to candy-coat "the weeping and gnashing of teeth" and the "eternal torment" of your god's twisted creation. You are a liar.
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 12:20 am)Cinjin Wrote: You just refuse to see the complete lack of logic in your rationalizing of your god. Which brings me to the question, WHY would you want to "be with god."I love God because He first loved me!
No, he didn't and still doesn't. When you burn billions of people for an eternity for not subliminally accepting you by way of accepting the son you sacrificed to a bunch of stupid primitives - you clearly love yourself first and foremost.
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote:(October 1, 2012 at 12:20 am)Cinjin Wrote: What's so special about your god that makes you want to spend any time with him whatsoever. He DOES NOT LOVE you Drich, he has always loved only himself, and has proven it ever since he was invented.That statement is going to be pretty hard to prove to me especially in leu of all that He has done for me.
He has done nothing for you. You see and feel what you want to - just like these devout long time christians.
(October 1, 2012 at 9:17 am)Drich Wrote: God Loves us and if we let Him will love us boundlessly. If you refuse His love, then know the love He has for you will end at the offer of redemption He has presented to you.
I cannot refuse love that does not exist from a being that has evolved from the minds of men for 3000+ years.
It is not real Drich. I use to be one of you. Open your eyes.