RE: Divine Inspiration
October 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2012 at 8:58 pm by Drich.)
(October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm)Darkstar Wrote:You awarded the title of 'superiority.' i simply pointed to the differences to why your arguements fail with 2/3's of Christianity.Quote:Why? Why do you assume that there is a god?Because i have tested God in the way He says we may test Him and I found Him.
Quote:Why couldn't the laws of nature exist without a god? Replace god with santa in the previous quote and you will see how little evidence you have for your assertion."a Rose by any other name would be just as sweet." -Juliet
Quote:Are you trying to say that Moses was so vastly unimportant to the world, despite what the bible claims he did, that there would be no evidence of his existance or of any of his actions?Are you being obstinate or just that uninformed about recorded history durning that time period? If not the Jews who (As in what culture) would have written anything about Moses? The Egyptians did not record failures entire segments of their history have been destroyed whole primiads have been torn down block by block because of their hatred of failure. So who outside of egypt could have written anything about Moses besides the Jews? Then who cared enough to do so in that time period? You observation fails because you assume (wrongly) that human history was recorded for posterity as it is now, and that there was a world wide effort to document great events. When in fact if one were to honestly at what has survived we see little more than nations dated propaganda.
Quote:Yes, appearently you missed my first two weeks here on this website.Glad we cleared that up. You actually believe that Noah's Ark could have possibly happened? And you think that pastors who do are in the majority, and are therefore credible? Now I know I don't have to take what you say seriously.
Quote:Why is it still a part of the christian bible, then?Because we worship the same God. just in a different way. We need to understand both to know why there was a change, and what that change means for us.
Quote:Don't you think that if you never found him it would be more likely that he doesn't exist and you just wasted your whole life?Waisted? no. Not unless I had planned to live for myself drinking and whoring my time away.
Quote:Also, you aren't denying that some people will never 'find god' no matter how long they look.As their results are directly tied to the condition of their hearts as God tells us, and as a man's heart is a variable I can not account for then it is obvious to me that many who will go through the motions of "A-S-K" (Ask Seek Knock) will not find anything. God has promised to give to those who make the effort mirriored in Luke 11. Not their personal version of what God outlines in Luke 11.
Quote:First, argument from age. Second, why do you not believe other religions when they tell you the same thingI have studied many of the other religions and none offer what Christianity does. Islam offers reward, and indulgance. Buddhisim offers enlightment, and a greater sense of awareness. Mormonism offer one the status of a god, to rule over and populate your own world. Hinduism offers a better life. Only Christianity offers a one on one relationship with the Living God for eternity.
Quote:No one 'discovers god' they only think they do.Indeed God reveals Himself to people.
Quote:Why, I ask, does god value belief over worship?Because worship without belief is meaningless. God does not care about the motions of worship but the condition of one's heart that drives Himself to worship.
Quote:If he made himself known, then he could seperate non-believers into those who are truly loyal, but simply couldn't find him and those who are not. People joining for self-preservation wouldn't be an issue because god would know this already.
I see the wheels turning this is good! but think about it a little more. God can already do this now. (Choose who will choose Him) So if our lives are not meant to allow God to Choose which one of us will choose Him. Then that means our lives were meant for us to know what or who we would choose for eternity.
How do I know? because I was judged (durning my time as an Atheist) and knew without doubt that Christ's judgement was fair and righteous.http://www.christianforums.com/t7474493/ post number 6
(October 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: [quote="Drich"]Actually I am saying never mind the issue you bring up because it does not reflect the topic you claim you want to discuss. What you have done is approached biblical Christianity from a roman catholic foundation. Which only accounts for about 1/3 of the world Christian population. You are tring to compare apples to oranges. The primary reason being is a biblical based Christianity starts and stops with in the pages of the bible. The R/C church starts and stops on what the men who wear the biggest hats in that religion thinks. Not really the same thing.
Why do you claim superiority over the people that preserved the very thing you practice today?