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Divine Inspiration
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RE: Divine Inspiration
(October 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm)Darkstar Wrote: Evidently the latter (badly uninformed). Nonetheless, there is still isn't archeological evidence that the Hebrews were enslaved by the Egyptians.
The Hebrew people were wards of the state, meaning they were not citizens of eygpt, and yet they were provided for by egypt. as a result they were made to work for their status. Kind of a working welfare, and not nessiarily a slaves.

Quote:Is that really what you think atheists do, drink and whore their time away?
That's what I did with my time as an atheist yes.

Quote:So what you're saying is that 1. we can't convince ourselves that god exists until we have [strong] faith in him,
no.

Quote: and 2. You picked the religion that offered the best reward, in your opinion?
Eternal life is not the reward. we do not know what the reward is, outside of being with God. Honestly the muslim reward sounds a bit more self indulging.. Unless you were one of the 70 virgins offered to someone else.

Quote:But if I already don't believe, then my worship will be meaningless, so he won't reveal himself, so...kinda locked the keys in the car, huh?
All it takes to get them out is the smallest amount of faith. Christ compared this faith to the size of a mustard seed. If you can come up with this minimal effort then God will move the mountains of doubt that obstruct your belief.



Quote:(bolding added)
I don't know what you mean in that sentence.
It means God does not need for us to live out a life span to know who will choose Him. He knew what we would choose before we were created. Therefore our lives are for us to know what we would choose.

Quote: I think you mean to say that god doesn't reveal himself to all people, but if that is the case, then why does he expect us all to believe? Why won't god reveal himself in a way that wouldn't allow for relatively simple alternative explanations? Is he deliberately concealing himself?
again if our lives are for us to know where our hearts want to spend eternity. (With God or eternally seperated from Him.) If were privy to God's presents without doubt without question. then this life would be dedicated to saving yourself from Hell. and when God will Make His final judgement, you would not know if your sentence to Hell would be justified or not. Because you would have earnestly spent your time doing everything you could to save yourself. In otherwords you would not be easily able to seperate self preservation from True Love for God. (which is the goal of this life and the next.)

As it is now God's glory is hidden from us unless we A/S/K for it. allowing those who do not want to be apart of God's plan for eternity the freedom to let their hearts desire mature. So when the final judgement is levied then for the hater of God or the one who just "can not live with an immoral God" they will know without doubt where they stand.

In my "Dream/vision" I stood before Christ and was judged, and all of my 'feelings' for God were made appearent, and then was shown where i should have been. Yes I begged and pleaded for my life and asked for another chance, but in the end when I was cast into the pit I knew I belonged there. (subsequently I also learned what gnashing of teeth was and why that is a scarry/bad thing.)

This life is for us, so we are not left in Hell to wonder for an eternity.

Quote:If you don't believe in evolution (I don't know if you do) then god must be doing a really good job of obscuring his existence.
Don't get us started on that. Here is a link to our last conversations about evolution: http://atheistforums.org/thread-11720.html

Quote:Also, I wonder how it is that you take the story of Noah's Ark to be literal. It is one of the least believable bible stories in my opinion and if you take it to be literally true then you appear to have too much faith, blind faith even. The best explanation I could find was:
Big Grin

In short the story of Noah's Ark is not one of the logistics behind the effort of one man and his family undertook to save the planet and the wildlife from an evil this world has not seen since. the story of Noah's Ark is about the amount of faith one man has and the lengths he would go to serve his God. Which makes the efforts of saving the world from the comming flood an act of God, not the works of man. If the story becomes an act of God then this story is no more 'unbelieveable' than any other found in the bible.

(October 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(October 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm)Drich Wrote: I can't offer any more than what God has offered you. If you do not like what is offered or how it is packaged then talk to God about it.

God hasn't offered me anything. I can't talk to him about it. I used to try, but he never answered back.

Then try speaking to one of His customer service repersentitivies
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Messages In This Thread
Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 28, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 28, 2012 at 5:44 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:35 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2012 at 12:46 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Cato - September 28, 2012 at 5:58 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 28, 2012 at 9:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - September 28, 2012 at 6:03 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Kayenneh - September 28, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by MysticKnight - September 28, 2012 at 10:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 12:51 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 8:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Waratah - September 29, 2012 at 1:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 1:49 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 9:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 9:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 29, 2012 at 10:15 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 12:33 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 8:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - September 30, 2012 at 9:13 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - September 30, 2012 at 10:59 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:38 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 12:39 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 12:57 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 10:56 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 9:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 2:09 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 2, 2012 at 10:26 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 6, 2012 at 9:50 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 6, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:55 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by genkaus - October 8, 2012 at 3:25 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Creed of Heresy - September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - September 30, 2012 at 4:48 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 9:33 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Whateverist - October 1, 2012 at 9:47 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:03 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:45 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 8:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by FallentoReason - October 1, 2012 at 11:22 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 1, 2012 at 11:41 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Polaris - October 2, 2012 at 12:30 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 2, 2012 at 3:46 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Minimalist - October 2, 2012 at 11:37 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 1:24 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 11:59 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Drich - October 7, 2012 at 12:36 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Darkstar - October 7, 2012 at 10:19 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by The Grand Nudger - October 7, 2012 at 11:35 pm
RE: Divine Inspiration - by KichigaiNeko - October 8, 2012 at 7:04 am
RE: Divine Inspiration - by Something completely different - October 8, 2012 at 9:13 am

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