I will partially agree with you, but not your reasoning. There are many knids of love; familial live, romantic love, brotherly love, and just plain love for humanity. However, I still think love would be devalued if you loved everyone. Would it mean anything to you if someone told you they loved you, but loved Adolf Hitler equally?
I haven't seen the movie, so I don't know if it would answer my question (I know, I could watch it right now, but...). I still think you would get stepped on, but I'm not promoting vigilanteism if that's what you're thinking.
Then why do we need to confess to god at all? Wouldn't he already know?
Well, that's your half of it...
If that is true, then belief and worship shouldn't be necessary. If our heart is in the right place, it shouldn't matter.
If god has allowed several different expressions of this process, then how can someone do it 'wrong'? If they truly wish to meet god, and there are 'several different expressions of this process' then is the only answer to someone who failed to see god 'try harder'? Keep in mind, as a skeptic, I'm not going to have unlimited faith in something for which there is no concrete evidence.
The hell thing was just a general statement. You felt empty and needed something to fill the void: god. The thing is, A/S/K sometimes creates the illusion of actually working because if people try hard enough and for long enough, they can will themselves into believing almost anything. A dream or vague emotion that would be written off as completely normal is then interpreted as a sign from god. However, an unambiguous sign (outside a dream, and dreams to to contain images and ideas that are on one's own mind) will never manifest.
I agree with the first, but not necessarily the second.
First, you say god gave you the dream but you have no way of knowing this is true (you even put evidence is quotation marks). If you are looking for a god, any god, regardless of existnence or no, you will eventually find something you can call a sign, even if other, more plausible, explanations are available.
So you seem confident that the kid got an actual message from god, then. So tell me this: every year there are people who kill someone and claim that god told them it had to be done. They are disbelieved only on the account that their act was violent. If they claimed that god had told them to do something else, they would have been believed. How do you know that they really didn't take out one of satan's minions for god? I bet you'll say they didn't, but then why is their story not believeable? They have just as much evidence as you do.
How does god regret doing something he already knows the outcome of?[/quote]Before i was married I had an on again off again girlfriend. We Loved each other passionatly for about a week or two at a time and then we would be at each others throats, saying all sorts of vile things to each other. then 6 months or so would go by and we'd be back together (even if we were seeing other people.) this went on for 5 years or more. to the point we did not stop our lives to get back together because we both knew how it would end. (in a bitter ugly fight.) Each time was the last time i would swear and 6 months later we'd go out again.. (till she introduced me to one of her childhood friends then it was over for good.)
How does God regret something He did even though He knew how it would turn out? How does man made in the image of God do the same thing?[/quote][/hide]
There was a thread on which of god's attributes were actually put into humans, and which weren't. I don't believe that this would fall into that category. http://atheistforums.org/thread-15028.ht...e+a+retard
Also, you may have had an inkling that it would end badly, but you didn't know it for a fact. Creating humans only to kill 99.9%+ of them is on a whole other level from what you said.
How is that possible...
The ark was only a manifestation of Noah's faith. Let's let that sink in for a moment... So...the ark was...a metaphor for Noah's faith... It does not say any of these things in the bible, so I'm assuming that this is just your own interpretation, then.
Noah isn't christ. Christ is god in human form; Noah had no special powers to speak of, nor did god perform any miracles in his name like he did for Moses.
Fair enough.
(bolding added)
So there are two possible outcomes:
1. Goddidit (even though it doesn't say he did anywhere in the text), or 2. The story is only a metaphor (supported by the segement I bolded)
It doesn't say that in the bible, does it?
So...they have no contact, but god blames the whole genus for it? How do we know who has a soul and who doesn't? If two people with a 'soul gene' are introduced into a population of 1,000,000+, that gene is a goner, unless it provides a marked survival advantage. I presume that it isn't genetic, though. In which case there is no reason it would be passed down hereditarily.
Natural selection is just that; natural, no god required. If you make some bacteria, throw them into a sustainable environment and return in 4 billion years to find them evolved, do you own the new creatures? Did you 'create' them, or just put down a spark. Heck, by that logic we could just say that god did abiogenesis. In that case, we could literally use anything as evidence for god. Even if this were true (which I don't believe it is), that would never pinpoint Yahweh as the one true god.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
