(October 2, 2012 at 11:02 pm)Darkstar Wrote: We wouldn't need to know of god to feel guilt and turn away from immoral acts. If we did, it wouldn't really be sincere.What about white lies? Gossip, anger towards another? Are these immoral you would naturally turn from? To God these sins (that our morality as trivalized are the greatest sins we can commit according to God.)
Morality is a crap standard that gives one a false sense of righteousness. That is why Christ identified the 'morality' of the preists of his day as "Self Righteousness." So everytime you wish to use you 'motality' as a standard to look down on or superceed the expressed will of God substitute that word 'morality' with self righteousness.
Quote:Then I guess I'm a terrible person because I don't believe.congats! admitting that you are a 'terriable person is a step in the right direction of repentance.
"We" are all terriable people.
Quote:Confirmation bias can perpetuate it, especially because god works in 'mysterious' ways, so you don't really need something specific for it to be a sign."God working in mysterious ways' is an answer given to the young in the faith. To one who has trouble unerdstanding that one is not in the business of trading 'good deeds' for favors with God. Meaning if one lives a 'good life' he is not assured of always being provided what he wants or the life he wants to live. If this person's minds set can not comperhend a God beyond the one who trades 'good deeds' for the good life then "God works in mysterious ways" is all the answer that person will be able to comperhend. If you want an answer beyond that one then learn to sek God on His terms and stop trying to make God fit your understanding of Him.
Quote:Now, I'm not going to accuse you of lying, but there are still some things from that thread that are worth noting.I have been told when someone says something, then says "But" then everything before the "but" is null and void.
Quote: Not only were the predictions given fairly vague, but they could have become self-fulfilling prophecies (ex. "He told me of comming prosperity, but not for my benfit so I could live in luxuary, but so I could help others.(Which I am doing)" could be that you are giving money because he said you would, or that he was simply offering advice).I have been literally given a winning lottery tickets worth of money. from a man I had only met maybe once or twice before and only in passing, and I could have spent it any way I wish. The prophecy however told me how to spend it, and I did/am doing. i did what I was told, and God is being faithful to the promise I have been given. For i am on the brink of 10x's what I had orginally been given.
Quote:Memory is a funny thing, you could have accidentally filled in his predictions with things that had already happened.Ah, no. I was driving a 1964 Ranchero/Falcon (that i paid 500 dollars for) with seats that were not attached to the car and a plywood floors, with no heat or defrost, (Which was very memoriable because of how cold it was that day/evening) oh and I was living with my Father. so no confusion there about my finances.
Quote:Also, why would he introduce himself as a psychic instead of an angel?He didn't. He said "I am what you might call a psychic."
If I was making this up don't you think after 15 years of telling this story I know enough to cut that bit out? I am being faithful to what has been said and faithful to the experience. He used the word Psychic but did not fully commit to it. I can only assume the reason he did this was to allow those of you who do not want to believe an out or a way to dismiss the account without forcing to accept or completely lie to yourself to overcome these events.
As a side note this also helped me develop the understanding as to the reason why does not provide absolute proof for everyone.
Quote:If the event seems real to you, you probably think I'm just being too suspicious, but if I told you a similar story, but replaced the word god with the word satan, you might understand where I'm coming from. Also, why is it that individual people say that they've had experiences with god that bettered their lives, when all of the starving children in Africa are completely ignored?How have they been ignored? There are many thousands of missionaries that dedicate their lives to Africa each year.. Or do you mean why God hasn't forced you or those like you to do something about the need you see in Africa?
Quote:God orders several genocides in the bible, so that isn't really a contradiction.Noope
Quote:But; does god make mistakes? If yes, then he isn't perfect. If no, then why was he disappointed if he planned it all along?Maybe when you gain a few more life experiences you will understand. There is nothing else I care to share that can help me communicate this to you. all I can say, is that even if you know how something will work out it is still very possiable to be disappointed with the outcome.