(October 7, 2012 at 1:24 am)Darkstar Wrote: This proves that morality is subjective in that god can rewrite it anytime he likes.The only thing this proves is that you do not understand the standard of God which He put into place thousands of years ago. Rather you have created a picture of what you think God should be and what His religion is and have set into attack the straw man you have built for yourself. Open your eyes, and accept that you have no a dark age understanding of God that you are trying to make comply with your own personal standard.
Quote:You also hold that the holocaust was the best method god could use to get the jews their land back. I find this borderline disturbing.

Quote:You also said that because a clearly religious man gave you a loan to help you do 'whatever god wanted you to do' proves god, and that I'm desperate for considering his mentioning of your 'vision' implied that he knew of, well, your 'experience'.lol, John is/was not religious. He is a Jew but not a practicing one.

As I told you Before he walked up to me and out of the blue offered me the money I had not said a word to him besides hello or how is it going?
What makes you desperate is that you are trying to ascribe some reason that you can live with as to why a perfect stranger would give me money to "Do with it as I see fit." I do not know why he did what He did other than to say God lead him to do so. I asked him why and all he could tell me was "it felt right." If you really must find some way to explain my experiences away, simply call me a liar and move on. I do not want to spend any more time correcting your false assumptions.
Quote:Exactly. Broken people are desperate and need an imaginary friend to fill the hole. Of course, I wouldn't cave and give up reason, and I'm not trying to sound superior by this, I;m simply stating a fact. I wouldn't use religion as an opiate; I would actually fix the problem.Which is why I suggested that you may need a termall disease or maybe you need to deal with a substance abuse problem of a loved one. Because in those situations you will come to a quick understanding that 'fixing' the problem is beyond your abity to will it so. Life offers us these 'trials' as oppertunities to lay down our pride and earnestly seek God. When your trial comes, know that you do not have to satasify your pride to A/S/K for God. If God delivers you from said trial it is most important that you honor what He has done. for if you try and use God to see you clear and then explain it all away as you have done here. then you will have damned yourself in such a way to almost find it impossiable to come back from.
Quote:You missed my point entirely. God knows what I need as proof, he just won't give it. If I look for god and then have faith that whatever I find is proof of god then of course I'll 'find' god!No I did not miss you point I over spoke your point. Why? Because your demand for proof will never be met on your terms. then I showed you Again how to approach God to obtain what He has offered us in the way of proof.
Quote:Not to me, to everyone! AGAIN: Why does he not just cut the crap and just show himself so he can see who will and won't follow?A-G-A-I-N: Because if their were absolute proof then the purpose of this life. the purpose God has set us in this realm (To proove to ourselves what we truly think of God and where we wish to spend eternity) will have been voided out by the absolute revelation of God. For if God is known to exist and you know Hell is a real place then self perservation will have kicked in and you will go through the motions of christianity to try and hide what your heart trully feels for God. Then on the day of your judgement you will expect to be saved from eternal damnation for giving this life to the christian religion. But Understand God is no fool. He knows the Hearts of men and if you were simply going through the motions you would be sent to hell anyways (as Christ points out that will happen to some of us in the book of Matthew.) As it is now. you have been blinded from the know glory of God so you can live according to what your heart truly wants.
Quote:Then why does he care so much about my lack of belief in him without evidence that he'll send me to hell for it?Appearently He doesn't if we use you standard of measure.
Quote:Something that must be an act of god. An unambiguous sign declaring itself god whilst doing something impossible.Such as?