(October 7, 2012 at 12:04 pm)Darkstar Wrote: I don't have time to respond to the rest, but I keep saying that god would know if we did it for self-preservation and we would be foolish to think otherwise.
Holy Smokes! And I will keep saying it's not for God that we are here. God could have created us and imediatly sent those who would deny Him straight to hell. Our time here is for us. so we know that God's judgement is just. When you live your life apart from the imediate knoweledge of God you do what you want. If you want God you will find him and if you want to live for self you will!